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8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL??

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8N STUCK! Lee

09-09-1999 09:07:56




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Help.... My 8N is stuck deep in the mud out in my pasture...that is the REAR wheels are stuck..she is sitting just about on the rear differetnial case...I had backed up against a fence and she sunk...the question I have is the only way I can pull her out is pull her from the front..where on the front of an 8N can I hook a chain to pull her out? The floating front axel does not appear to me to be a good place??? any ideas?? Thanks in advance.

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Dave (WI)

09-09-1999 19:51:11




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 Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to 8N STUCK! Lee, 09-09-1999 09:07:56  
For safety reasons, I like to attach a safety rope from the stuck tractor to the chain/strap, with about 10 feet of slack. That way if the chain/strap breaks or comes off when a lot of tension has been applied, hopefully the safety rope will stop everything from flying into the puller. Try to go slow. I grew up getting tractors stuck. My dad never understood why I tried to get that extra wet piece of land worked up:^)

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Rc

09-09-1999 15:09:42




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I go straight to the problem and use a hi-lift jack to get each side out of the ruts. Then fill in the ruts or cover them with boards or whatever. If I have to tug on it I hook to the rear axle and use 2 chains connected with an old tire. You get the best of both..... .



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Never,never...bg

09-09-1999 15:01:22




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 Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to 8N STUCK! Lee, 09-09-1999 09:07:56  
Never chain or tie anything to the rear wheels to get extra traction. The tractor can flip over in a heartbeat. Just don't do it. Use a chain on the axle mounting bracket as llamas says, or around the back axles and underneath. If you pull steadily and drive the tractor out at the same time, you should be OK.



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Nolan

09-09-1999 10:57:12




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 Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to 8N STUCK! Lee, 09-09-1999 09:07:56  
Ah, a practice near and dear to my heart. I'm good at getting 8N's stuck, and have lots of practice at it. :-)

Don't try pulling the front suspension. It will come off. No, I haven't (quite) managed to yank mine off, but I did observe one can induce a fascinating amount of distortion in the front axle without impressing the thoroughly stuck rear tires in the slightest.

I like pulling from the rear axles. They're pretty strong. So I'd rig up a cradle chain that wrapped around from one axle to the other, with the hoop of chain extending out front. And connect my towing chain to that hoop. Then all the towing force is applied to the strong axles that can take this kind of force.

I would use chains. Not cables, not snatch straps, not ropes.

Straps and such are nice in certain applications. But the thing that makes them nice can also make them nasty and wrong. They work by stretching and applying gradual tension. That's good for gentle easing out things that aren't too stuck, or for catching things already moving. But unpleasantly inclined to rip off axles by continuous tension when tugging on stuck things.

Chains on the other hand do not stretch. So once you've taken up the slack, things must move, or break. Usually they move. I like that. It also means once the object moves, there is no more tension. You can see very clearly if tension is causing things to move with a chain.

It's the difference between gradually leaning on a wrench harder and harder, or smacking it with a hammer. The former tends to round off heads, while the latter breaks a stuck bolt free.

Chains also do not kill when snapped, like a cable or rope will.

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Dennis N Tx.

09-09-1999 10:35:44




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 Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to 8N STUCK! Lee, 09-09-1999 09:07:56  

If it's *real* stuck, and towing doesn't work, get some 2" or 3" (can't remember the size we used) drill pipe (or comparable) and chain a piece on the side of each tire. They should stick out 1-2 foot past the tire (5-6' total length). Put the tractor in low gear...when the tire rotates the pipes will dig in and really give it a boost. My father-in-law and I did this several years ago when we couldn't get to the tractor with a vehicle. It worked like a charm. I know there are some skeptics out there...but it worked for us. Sometimes you have to be creative in tight situations, and I give my father-in-law all the credit.

Good Luck!
Dennis
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Charlie in TX

09-09-1999 13:59:29




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 Re: Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to Dennis N Tx., 09-09-1999 10:35:44  
I have used this method before also. BE CAREFULL. It is very posible for the tractor to flip. For safeties sake, attach a chain from the front of the tractor to a truck/tree/something.

PS we used railroad ties



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Dennis N Tx. *Be Careful* ...AMEN!

09-10-1999 09:00:40




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to Charlie in TX, 09-09-1999 13:59:29  
Or is it carefool?



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Dell (WA)

09-09-1999 09:41:12




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 Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to 8N STUCK! Lee, 09-09-1999 09:07:56  
Lee..... ...I'd make a bridal chain hook-up. Hook each chain end around front axle at radius rod connections and then hook up to the center of the bridal chain and pull "gently" (grin).....hope this helps..... ....Dell



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Thanks for ALL of the SUGGESTIONS!! Guy's

09-10-1999 09:04:30




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 Re: Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to Dell (WA), 09-09-1999 09:41:12  
Thanks guy's for ALL of youre suggestions..I most likely will try the trick of chaining pipes to each wheel..thanks Dennis. The reason beind ALL of this is this Ford rarley ever gets stuck...goes where four wheel drives will never...the reason is simple:)) I have liquid in the rear tires along with over 1000 pounds of inner wheel weights..they fill up the entire area of the inner rim. This Ford 8N is one heavy tractor...she out weighs my John Deere model B: which I also got stuck...fianlly got it out yesterday whith the help of my 350 HP GMC 1970 truck with Turbo 400 automatic...it took all the tractor got muster along with my wife in the GMC..the soil here when wet has a lot of clay. Thanks again for ALL of your siggestions.

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Dennis N Tx.

09-10-1999 09:16:19




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to Thanks for ALL of the SUGGESTIONS!! Guy's, 09-10-1999 09:04:30  
Don't try and spin the tires, idle it in first gear, better if you have low, low. It should take one or two revolutions to get out. Once its out of the nasties take them off, you don't want to drive on hard ground with them on, the tractor wasn't made to drive on stilts, major flipping potential!

Please be *careful* as its been stated.



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llamas

09-09-1999 09:18:38




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 Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to 8N STUCK! Lee, 09-09-1999 09:07:56  
You're right, the front axle is a bad choice. Don't do that.

Root around under the front axle mount - the welded box on the front of the motor where the front axle pivot pin mounts. On the underside, you will find a hole large enough to run a decent-sized chain through. Put your chain through there and sieze it inside the "tub" with a pin or bolt. You may need to snake it out past the crank pulley to get something on the end of the chain that won't go through the hole, then snake it back in. Then pull on the chain. I'd try not to jerk it if you can help it, since everything is attached to cast iron. Or put a nylon tow strap on the chain to absorb the shock. If you have a tow strap with a decent-sized loop in the end you can feed that through the hole and trap it with bolt or pin in a likewise manner.

Hang a couple cinder blocks on the strap before you go to pulling - a tow rope or strap that lets go will take your head off.

Take care.

llater,

llamas

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Jim (M0)

09-09-1999 11:35:27




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 Re: Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to llamas, 09-09-1999 09:18:38  
Let's see if I understand the cinder block part. If the strap breaks the blocks fall and direct the potentialy lethal recoil down and away or slow it down ???



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llamas

09-09-1999 17:09:59




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 Re: Re: Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to Jim (M0), 09-09-1999 11:35:27  
Or tangle up the rope, or stop the hook and shackle from flying back straight through the centerline of the towing vehicle, right where the driver's skull usually is.

Hey, it's just one approach of many. Safety first, what?

llater,

llamas



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Eric (MI)

09-09-1999 18:34:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 8N Stuck in the mud..where to PULL?? in reply to llamas, 09-09-1999 17:09:59  
Llamas,

Good advice.

My sister-in-law and her boyfriend borrowed my pickup one day to pick up a few evergreens. When they dropped one of them in the hole, they found the hole to be too deep. The boyfriend decided to try to pull the tree out of the hole with a tow strap hooked to the wire around the ball of the tree. He wound up luckier than my truck, as it ended up with a 1/2" x 3" gash in the tailgate as a result of the impact made by the hook as it broke the wire and became a potentially lethal flying object. It was not a wise idea, needless to say.

Eric

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