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How do you decode those message ID numbers?

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Nolan

09-27-1999 03:50:31

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Seings as how my favorite troll who likes to post as me is at it again, I'd like to talk to his isp about it. Now last time, Kim wouldn't ID the guy, so I never got to file a complaint.

Since some of you have said that number is a means of identification, do any of you know how I could translate it into something useful? I'm getting quite tired of this, and would like to end it.

To ID me, my id number is 209.48.190.195. That's from work. There are a few posts from 207.172.242.160 that are from me as well. That's from home and when I was laid up the other week. But I almost always post from work.

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Dennis N Tx.

09-29-1999 14:11:54

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Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan, 09-27-1999 03:50:31

I don't know, but I checked one of my ol' favorite places and they changed their format. It displays your name, #, and the state you post from. When you open a thread it also opens all the responses below it in order. Thought it was pretty neat.

http://www.wmi.org/www/boating/boatboard/

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Jim WI

09-28-1999 11:05:44

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Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan, 09-27-1999 03:50:31

Go to whois site and run a search on the numbers. That should tell you who the ISP is. Then you can go to the ISP's web page and find out who to complain to.

For example, I can tell from your IP numbers that your work ISP appears to be Digex and your home ISP is Erol's Internet Services.

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Nolan

09-27-1999 20:06:12

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Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan, 09-27-1999 03:50:31

I don't see what all the fuss is about. So there's another Nolan in the world..... maybe two?

Anonymity is possible.

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Jim(UT)

09-28-1999 08:22:22

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Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan, 09-27-1999 20:06:12

I'm no psychiatrist, I'm a numbers cruncher and money lender, but you appear to have serious self image problems if you need to assume the identity of a well respected person to achieve a sense of importance. Everyone has importance in their own right, you need to find out who and what you are and get comfortable with that. Assuming Nolan's identity to gain credibility just has the opposite effect....now no one (at least on this board) can ever trust you to tell the truth. You can go elsewhere and fool some other folks for awhile, but that will eventually blow up, too. You'll wind up alone; no one will want to be around you and you'll wonder why; unless you start being honest with yourself first, then branch out and be truthful to others. I'm not mad at you like some others (but I haven't been damaged like others have), rather, I feel sorry for you and where you are headed.

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P.S.............Jim(UT)

09-28-1999 08:25:51

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Re: Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Jim(UT), 09-28-1999 08:22:22

Why would you want anonymity to be possible unless you were ashamed of who (and what) you really are?

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Jim WI

09-28-1999 11:13:29

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Re: Re: Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to P.S.............Jim(UT), 09-28-1999 08:25:51

Some people (including a lot of women I know) prefer not to known by their real name or address on the net. To me, they seem overly concerned about nuts. Just my opinion -- they're entitled to their own.

Many companies, including the one I work for, have an anonymous method for "whistle-blowing". This would seem another valid use for anonymity.

Pretending to be someone else (who really exists) for the purpose of defaming or causing trouble for that individual is not a valid use for anonymity. It'll also get your mask pierced rather quickly.

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09-28-1999 19:52:34

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Jim WI, 09-28-1999 11:13:29

The two-edged sword of internet communications leaves room for the wackos, sociopaths, psychopaths and otherwise mentally-deficient types to lurk and seek to satisfy some inner urge or vent their angst. I'm the type of guy who says what I mean, means what I say, and will accept the slings and arrows as well as the kudos. I still believe a man's name and word are his honor and a handshake means more than any written contract. Too bad there are some out there who resent others and their opinions to the point of being malicious and destructive.

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EricG.NH

09-29-1999 06:40:13

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to bg, 09-28-1999 19:52:34

Try telling the handshake thing to the ghost of Harry Ferguson! :o)
Eric
P.S. Now don't git all testy on me, just a little humor!

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Steve Warfle

09-28-1999 07:54:52

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Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan, 09-27-1999 20:06:12

It's a simple as this. there are some peoples opinions I take with a grain of salt. There are others whose advice and opinion too me is close to fact. yours is not, the real Nolan's is. Anybody who isn't man enough to back away from a problem that has been clearly identified, is no man I would want to take advice from. You are sick...get help!

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David (La)

09-28-1999 07:31:31

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Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan, 09-27-1999 20:06:12

The fuss is, you use a handle which you know is being used by someone else because you also posted his e-mail address to respond to. This would appear to the casual user to be the same person but it is not. This my friend is fraud, and you are guilty. If you were a man you would admit it and clean up your act.

Also if you really want to know how people feel about your act, post your real e-mail and they may respond. But if you really have something to hide as it appears you do then someday you must reap the harvest which you sow!

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Nolan

09-27-1999 10:35:10

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Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan, 09-27-1999 03:50:31

Thanks for all your help folks. Contacted Level3 and even got a call back from them on it. Since the poser didn't exactly defame me, they weren't too worked up about it. As long as it stops, that's fine by me.

Shesh, I don't know what I do around here to get picked up by these folks. Oh I can be zesty in some other arenas, but I thought I played nice here about tractors.

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AL@NC

09-27-1999 11:16:07

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Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan , 09-27-1999 10:35:10

It's your magnetic personality attracting the stray electrons.. he he....

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Jim(UT)

09-27-1999 16:02:15

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Re: Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to AL@NC, 09-27-1999 11:16:07

Magnetic personality, sure, but it's attracting wing-nuts from what I can tell.

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EricG.NH

09-27-1999 10:52:53

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Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan , 09-27-1999 10:35:10

FWIW,
Your troll appears to be a dialup user in the Washington, DC area.
Eric

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Jim (MO)

09-27-1999 09:24:53

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Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan, 09-27-1999 03:50:31

Nolan, traced your alter ego to an ISP in Colorado. The comapany is level3.net. They have a web site with much info. The trace also indicated it was a dial up connection so the IP is probabaly dynamicaly allocated, ie different each time. Having a record of the time of posts would be important. Probably nothing illegal going on here, so good luck.

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Kim

09-27-1999 10:12:49

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Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Jim (MO), 09-27-1999 09:24:53

Impersonating someone using their e-mail handle is indeed illegal. He didn't just use Nolan's name, he used Nolan's e-mail address as well. In this case it would be best to notify the ISP with the date, time and exact IP address of the offensive post. Most ISP's have strict regulations against such activity and have the option of removing their account.

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EricG.NH

09-27-1999 09:54:02

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Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Jim (MO), 09-27-1999 09:24:53

That's just the beginning. Level3 is providing the gateway. The 209.244.214.xxx is indicating either their Seattle,WA or Washington,DC subnet. That leaves 256 IPs to go!!!
Eric

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David (La)

09-27-1999 09:32:11

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Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Jim (MO), 09-27-1999 09:24:53

I agree, looks like Louisville, CO.
Maybe it is another Nolan.

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PS, Jim (MO)

09-27-1999 09:30:56

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Re: Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Jim (MO), 09-27-1999 09:24:53

Just noted the post times are 1 1/2 hour later than my time, CST. Must be using this hosts server clock. Might check with Kim on how to decipher that.

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David (La)

09-27-1999 06:49:31

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Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan, 09-27-1999 03:50:31

Try going to this site (below) and entering the number. It should supply the ISP.

Internet Number Registry

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EricG.NH

09-27-1999 04:36:39

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Re: How do you decode those message ID numbers? in reply to Nolan, 09-27-1999 03:50:31

There are two utilities that usually come with an ftp or tcp/ip package. They are ping and trace. Search some of the shareware areas if you don't have them already. Ping and trace may not get you all the way but it will get you close and should ID the ISP. Date and times are important as well. Keep a log of some. Eric
P.S. There's no such thing as anonymity on the net.

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