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Ringy

09-29-1999 15:11:02




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I have a 48 8n at home that I tinker with, and we just got an IH "M" donated to us at school to restore (I'm a shop teacher). We are just getting started an the "tear down" phase here at school and I find myself comparing the design of the two tractors every day. When I work on my 8n at home I find myself thinking "boy, that was a good idea, somebody put a lot of thought into this." While at school on the "M" I think "they could a have done this a little better." I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth, but the 8n is to me a much better design. The "M" also seems like an awful big tractor for not that much more horsepower. Do you guys feel the same or am I in left field?

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Fred

09-30-1999 06:47:09




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 Re: 8n vs. IH M in reply to Ringy, 09-29-1999 15:11:02  
I own both. I love both. For what I use the N for, it is the best. I also own an H, a Super C and a Cub. All three of these can have the engine rebuilt without splitting the tractor. Just drop the oil pan and push every thing out the top while you stand there. Wouldn't it be great if that design was incorporated into the N series. I still use my 8N more hours than all of the Farmalls combined. Don't sell the plain M short. It is quite the powerhouse with the most wonderful roar.

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llamas

09-30-1999 03:06:30




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 Re: 8n vs. IH M in reply to Ringy, 09-29-1999 15:11:02  
Both are great machines.

The N was designed for low ground clearance and the use of implements on the three-point hitch. The M was designed for row-crop use with high ground clearance, with implements mounted on the frame of the tractor. Hence its relatively massive construction and very high stance. The IH motor and transmission are well known for being next to bulletproof. And the IH design team weren't asleep at the switch, either - when you look at something like their fan belt adjuster system, or the brake system in the later Super H/Super M and low 100-series models, it makes you smile just the same way.

They're just pigs of a different grunt. An M would be a poor choice for my applications just as an N would be a poor choice for someone running row crops.

llater,

llamas

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Bill(Tx)

09-29-1999 17:43:03




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 Re: 8n vs. IH M in reply to Ringy, 09-29-1999 15:11:02  
Ringy, what have you found on the M that could have been better designed? You may not know that the rated hp for M drawbar on gasoline is 34.44, and 39.23 belt/pto. The Super M is 42hp on the drawbar, more than double the N series horsepower. I've restored a Farmall H and a '41 9N, and I can say the engineering for both was for great reliability and farmer serviceablity.



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Jerry

09-29-1999 17:20:02




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 Re: 8n vs. IH M in reply to Ringy, 09-29-1999 15:11:02  
That old "M" was a real workhorse in it's day. It was a real treat to plow at night with an M. It had a wonderful sound to it when pulling a plow with 3-16 inch bottoms on it. A very tough, hard working tractor that was reasonably good on fuel. I'll never forget that sound along about midnight with fire coming out the top of the stack about 2 or 3 inches. Ahhhhh h.....Jerry



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bg

09-29-1999 16:52:14




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 Re: 8n vs. IH M in reply to Ringy, 09-29-1999 15:11:02  
The M is certainly a massive tractor. I'd like to have one just 'cause they look mean. I guess HP is not quite as important as gearing. The little 8N is a well-designed tractor with stuff that was way ahead of its time. Funny how everybody puts the N's down when they are responsible for engineering ideas that have been incorporated in all modern tractors. The Farmall M is a different kind of machine, designed primarily for row-crop use, where the N is more of a utility tractor.

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Ringy

09-30-1999 08:57:52




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 Re: Re: 8n vs. IH M in reply to bg, 09-29-1999 16:52:14  
You guys are right, I guess I'm just more used to my 8n. I might be slow to fall in love but when I fall I fall hard. Check out some pictures I've posted on our school web page. I'll be posting more as we work on the old girl.

http://www.cromwellwright.k12.mn.us/%20Ringhand%27s%20folder/ringhand.htm



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