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Battery Cables 101

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Nolan @erols.co

10-04-1999 03:34:15




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It's certainly no secret that I've complained about the slow cranking and hard starting that comes with 6 volt systems like the N's have. And, I've also been one to talk about how nice it would be to have 12 volts and be able to spin that engine over on the starter motor.

Well, this weekend I decided to clean up my battery connections, and replace one of the cables.

Er, ahem, well, as a result of clean connections, and fresh heavy wire, my tractor now cranks over like a bat outa hell, and fires right up. As in bump the starter switch, and she's instantly running. I can't give you a cranking rpm, but I can say that with new wires and clean connections, it spins on 6 volts every bit as fast as it would when I jumped it with 12. We're not talking about a little bit of an improvement, we're talking phenominal difference!

So, the moral of todays story is check your connections and battery cables. It makes *quite* the difference in how the tractor starts.

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Kevin (OH)

10-04-1999 15:33:14




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 Re: Battery Cables 101 in reply to Nolan @erols.com, 10-04-1999 03:34:15  
What gauge wire did you end up putting on those Nolan?



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Nolan @erols.com

10-05-1999 04:02:45




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 Re: Re: Battery Cables 101 in reply to Kevin (OH), 10-04-1999 15:33:14  
I used 3/0. I replaced the starter side battery cable, making my own connectors (easy to do). The ground side was already about 1/0, and in good shape except for the battery post connector.

In hind site, I'd have purchased 18" of the 3/0 cable from TSC (3.99 a foot), and had enough to make both cables new.



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bg

10-04-1999 20:55:16




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 Re: Re: Battery Cables 101 in reply to Kevin (OH), 10-04-1999 15:33:14  
You can get 1 or 2 gauge at Wal-Mart. I wouldn't use anything smaller than a 2. (The bigger the number the smaller the wire)



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tom

10-04-1999 16:53:53




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 Re: Re: Battery Cables 101 in reply to Kevin (OH), 10-04-1999 15:33:14  
i bought factory cables i don't no what gauge they are but there thicker then the aftermarket



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bg

10-04-1999 08:20:44




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 Re: Battery Cables 101 in reply to Nolan @erols.com, 10-04-1999 03:34:15  
Thanks for the testimonial! What's gratifying is that you're willing to examine the options and make a rational assesment. Ockham's Razor cuts again!



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Nolan @erols.com

10-05-1999 04:14:04




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 Re: Re: Battery Cables 101 in reply to bg, 10-04-1999 08:20:44  
Like a lot of people here, I'm too young to have any experience with 6 volt systems. So while I "know" they are sensitive to resistence, I can only relate that to 12 volt systems. And come to the obviously flawed conclusion that a bit of corrosion isn't going to cause that much problem. After all, 12 volt systems can crank over just fine with the nastiest looking battery cables and connections. So I did the obvious but wrong jump that 6 volt systems should only require battery cables and connections to look twice as good. Similarly cable size. For a 12 volt starter runs just fine with a small cable, and isn't very fazed by heat. So I incorrectly extrapolated out from that as well that the 6 volt system wouldn't be bothered by hot cables either.

I posted this message for all the others out there who have lamented with me about the horribly slow cranking of the 6 volt system. It's pretty obvious to me now that they too are suffering from corrosion and or inadequate cables. I also really wanted to get the point across that my tractor now spins over *fast* on the 6 volts. Much to my chagrin. I only expected my tractor to pick up a bit of cranking speed, not to spin the engine over so fast that it actually keeps on rotating after I let go of the starter motor.

I am still a fan of 12 volt systems. But almost exclusively for the add on capabilities. As in electric pumps, etc. Some day, some where, mine may get a 12 volt conversion. But I have now been edumacated on the adequacies of the 6 volt system for starting the tractor, *if* things are kept clean. I just didn't appreciate how clean clean must be, and how well it will work when it's clean and properly sized.

To all my fellow lamenters of slow cranking, clean your connections! If in doubt, replace those battery cables! I firmly believe you will be as astonished as I was.

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Claus

10-04-1999 10:15:04




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 Re: Re: Battery Cables 101 in reply to bg, 10-04-1999 08:20:44  
Non sunt multiplicanda entia praeter neccissitatem.
Claus



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Matt

10-04-1999 16:03:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Battery Cables 101 in reply to Claus, 10-04-1999 10:15:04  
Claus, Could you run that by again in english, please?



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Claus

10-04-1999 16:34:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Battery Cables 101 in reply to Matt, 10-04-1999 16:03:12  
This is BG's favorite saying in Latin...Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill.. Literally, don't multiply enteties beyond what is necessary..
Claus



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bg

10-04-1999 18:00:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Battery Cables 101 in reply to Claus, 10-04-1999 16:34:35  
Or: Don't look for a $10.00 solution when a $.10 one will do.



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Claus

10-04-1999 05:54:37




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 Re: Battery Cables 101 in reply to Nolan @erols.com, 10-04-1999 03:34:15  
This has been said many times many ways. A lot of times, the cables are replaced with 4 gauge cables sold in many of the Auto Parts stores and K Mart and Wall Mart. These are ok... for 12 volt systems. But couple them with terminals that are not clean and tight and you have problems. Sometimes a bargain is not a bargain..
Happy Motoring
Claus



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