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PTO overrun clutch pin

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Art NC

03-07-2000 18:11:30




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Pin has broken into pieces.Must remove and replace.
Is this a hardware store item?
Thanks ART




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Big Steve

03-07-2000 18:29:28




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 Re: PTO overrun clutch pin in reply to Art NC, 03-07-2000 18:11:30  
They're usually a type of pin called a Roll Pin. Many hardware stores have them. Finding the right size can be a bit of trouble sometimes. Check Lowes, Home Depot or a really good hardware store. Quality Farm & Fleet ought to have 'em but mine didn't.

The size can vary, but most of them seem to be the same: 5/16" x 2"

Just drive the old pieces out with a punch and slip the new one in.

Other advice: When I find a place that has this size roll pins, I buy two or three of 'em.

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llamas

03-08-2000 04:22:42




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 Re: Re: PTO overrun clutch pin in reply to Big Steve, 03-07-2000 18:29:28  
Roll pins come in two styles. One is a single thickness of material rolled into a circle, sometimes called a "single coil" style. The other is made of much thinner material which is rolled through several turns to form the cylindrical pin, sometimes called a "full coil" style.

The "full coil" style eliminates the potential weak point at the seam of the "single coil" style, and is also typically considerably stronger in shear than the "single coil" style. "Full coil" pins will also tolerate larger variations in hole diameter and still fit tight.

Suggest that you use the "single coil" style - they are considerably cheaper, more readily available, and they will fail more easily when things go bad. If you can, install the pin with the seam facing fore-and-aft, it will be less likely to collapse under the load. Any engineering supply house, or decent old-time hardware store, will carry these - they are typically found on those sections of the store filled with flat slide-out drawers filled with hardware items of all types.

HTH,

llater,

llamas

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Nolan

03-08-2000 06:35:31




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 Re: Re: Re: PTO overrun clutch pin in reply to llamas, 03-08-2000 04:22:42  
Am I missing something here? The pto and impliment shaft are splined, and it's the splines that take the load. The roll pin is only there to keep the drive shaft from falling off the pto. If there's an issue with the roll pins failing, it's going to because of either worn splines or the wrong shaft length on the impliment.



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llamas

03-08-2000 10:02:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: PTO overrun clutch pin in reply to Nolan, 03-08-2000 06:35:31  
Art reports by e-mail that the problem was an overlength PTO shaft, which he knew about.

llater,

llamas



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llamas

03-08-2000 07:57:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: PTO overrun clutch pin in reply to Nolan, 03-08-2000 06:35:31  
Agreed. However, they do fail, all the time, for the exact reasons you say - radial loading because the splines fit poorly, or thrust loading because the PTO shaft isn't right. That's probably what caused the original failure he described.

I was merely answering his question about roll pins, and trying to be sure that he didn't get something which, if installed in the same rigging, would be less likely to fail and would transfer the failure to somewhere more expensive.

llater,

llamas

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