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1974 Oliver 1855 Diesel

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Burly

03-12-2000 18:42:12




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I own a 1974 Oliver 1855 Diesel with 2317 actual hours. It is in excellent original condition. The tractor is equipped with a cab, the hydraul-shift (over/direct/under) package, a category 2 3-point hitch and dual remote outlets. It has the factory front weights. The tires are at 65%. It is used as the third (chore) tractor on our family farm. It has a small hydraulic leak at one of the hoses and the fan in the cab does not work. I was asked by a used-tractor broker to quote him a sales price. I have no idea what the tractor is worth and would like some ideas. It really is a good chore and light to medium duty tractor. Thanks for any help you can give me.

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WFE

03-13-2000 14:50:06




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 Re: 1974 Oliver 1855 Diesel in reply to Burly, 03-12-2000 18:42:12  
Burly,

Price will vary with region. Case in point, a 5288 IH (160 hp) did not sell at an auction recently in Lancaster, PA because if failed to bring a bid of $11,000. Had I the money to purchase it, I would have brought it back to the Midwest where it should bring a minimum of $20,000. Tractor had only 3000 hours on it. Anyway, back to the good tractor, the Oliver. You say it's a 1974 model. It should have an oil cooler then because beginning in '74 Oliver equipped 1855 diesels with the oil cooler that the 1955 used. 1855s prior to 1974 had no oil cooler and suffered a great many failures (there were of course other root causes, namely improperly balanced crankshafts, two-piece wrist pin bushings, incorrect rod cap hardware installed, and small oil capacity). As a result of all the failures, a massive field campaign was initiated in '74 to install oil coolers on previous 1855s already in the customers' hands and current '74 models and after were fitted with oil coolers. So yours should have this. They were also somewhat noted for having relief valves go bad. They required frequent and proper shimming or the system will overheat. In any case, I don't want to give a negative impression of this tractor that is truly one of the greats, especially that tranny. I would believe that your tractor should be worth between $7000 and $8000. Of course, this is all based on an assumed region. They truly are a great tractor.

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Good Grief

03-14-2000 22:12:24




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 Re: Re: 1974 Oliver 1855 Diesel in reply to WFE, 03-13-2000 14:50:06  
All those engine problems? I thought Oliver was the BEST?



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WFE

03-16-2000 09:38:09




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 Re: Re: Re: 1974 Oliver 1855 Diesel in reply to Good Grief, 03-14-2000 22:12:24  
Oliver was and is the best. They, like all other manufacturers, have certain models which were troublesome. The 1855 is Oliver's best known example. Every manufacturer has problem tractors if you know enough about them. Case in point: John Deere 4520 had an awful engine. They simply couldn't handle turbocharging, similar to the 1855 the way it was initially built. And the entire 2 cylinder era was an engineering failure. As for IH, the transmissions in the 1466 and 1566 suffered from not having planetary final drives, known for many failures when asked to pull heavy tillage tools. Also, IH trannys just have terrible shifting characteristics (lack of synchronizers). AC had its own engine problems in its 426, as well as certain transmission problems. MF had a catastrophic transmission problem in the early 80s which really ruined the line's reputation. Certain Case tractors with 3 speed powershift have frequent failures in this area. Ford tractors, well, let's just say the Commander 6000 was an ultimate disaster. MM had some engine problems in the mid to late 70s, although this was due primarily to assembly error. Surely if I've forgotten any product line, they too have their problems.

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Burly

03-17-2000 21:20:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 1974 Oliver 1855 Diesel in reply to WFE, 03-16-2000 09:38:09  
WFE: Thanks for the information on the 1855 diesel. You are right. My 1974 does have an oil cooler. What can I do to prolong the life of this engine and avoid the engine problems mentioned in your response other than change the oil every 80 to 100 hours? To date, I have not experienced any engine trouble but the tractor only has about 2320 actual hours on it. With regular maintainence and sensible use, how many hours should I be able to put on this engine before needing an overhaul or other major engine work? I would appreciate your thoughts on these questions as well as anyone else's out there. Thanks in advance.

Burly.

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JD-8

03-12-2000 19:16:47




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 Re: 1974 Oliver 1855 Diesel in reply to Burly, 03-12-2000 18:42:12  
It's worth more than he says it is, I gaurantee! You have a wonderful tractor there. If you must sell it, sell it dearly!



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