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310 HiPo for Brad (WI)

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WFE

01-04-2005 22:01:16

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Brad, another gentleman and I posted a reply to you on the earlier thread regarding the 1855. We are both anxious to learn what sort of things you did to get 310 hp out of your 310, especially at such relatively low rpms, 2200. We are both pulling only locally against much bigger cube IH and Deere engines. All I've ever done to 310s is tighten leaf spring in pump, adjust torque screw, increase rpms, and slightly bigger turbo. If you're willing, please share your success story!

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BradWi

01-06-2005 16:29:20

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to WFE, 01-04-2005 22:01:16

I forgot to tell you these are stock injectors,probably pushed beyond their limits.the pump is not opened up all the way,i'm guessing around 220cc's the pump shop said the injector would hold that without pump damage.also .093 size lines no bigger i was told.

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Brad WI

01-06-2005 16:23:51

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to WFE, 01-04-2005 22:01:16

Hey there, no it's not a stock pump ;) Basically the motor is stock except the head was cleaned up a little on the ports & manifolds. I was lucky to come across a cheap inline A-pump from a 4440 jd style.the pump puts out 390cc fuel wide open.it really should be benched and set for my rpm class which is 2800,right now i don't know how the governor is set up.I don't get full fuel untill it pulls down quite aways. This tractor runs so much smoother at idle with this pump vs the roosa master.With the roosa i got 240 hp last year.It was already set up with the oliver drive so i just had to get oil to it and machine a support bearing into the front cover for the idler gear between the crank and pump.As far as air goes i had best luck with a holset turbo off a 140 white. this turbo should be factory it really brings the bottom end to life and fits with minor modification. The biggest thing you want to do is advance your timing,this will make your tractor start hard but it will benefit your hp.I gained 36 hp just in timing.With the a-pump i run close to 30 degrees,but it really hammers when the run is over.well, this is some of the stuff i remembered. if you have any suggestions let me know.I need more power to compete,around here they basically allow retired superfarmers with cast wheels to pull in "farm stock"....too expensive for me!!

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DuaneWKKC

01-07-2005 03:43:20

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to Brad WI, 01-06-2005 16:23:51

Hmm... hey Brad, that thing would be nice in a 1650 ollie, bet with some work you could get one down to the 6000 or 6500lbs class? I perasonally would love to see more ollies pulling. Hope to get a 310w/turbo to drop into my 1650 when funds allow (read the KIDS are gone...LOL). Just dreaming but its articles like this that keep the dreams alive.. good luck.
DuaneW.

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WFE

01-06-2005 19:38:39

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to Brad WI, 01-06-2005 16:23:51

Thanks for sharing Brad. Makes me think that the next 310 I build will be 'modified'. I am surprised, pleasantly, that the pencil injectors are capable of that much fuel delivery. Did you make no changes to the bottom end, ie harden rods, stiffener plate at bottom, anything with crank? What a motor!!!

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J. Schwiebert

01-07-2005 02:45:54

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to WFE, 01-06-2005 19:38:39

That makes two of us. I would also like to know how much boost you are running when it is on the dyno.

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BradWi

01-07-2005 10:15:01

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to J. Schwiebert, 01-07-2005 02:45:54

It runs about 41 lb. of boost max. in reply to some other questions, i did put a girdle with main supports on and the rods were heat treated ($30.00;cheaper than custom rods!)I also had wire o-rings machined in the head (cost 120.00)so i could use a stock head gasket because those copper ones tend to leak pressure into the coolant system,hence the catch can on some tractors or the antifreeze drippage at the end of a run

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A.P.

01-08-2005 06:54:24

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to BradWi, 01-07-2005 10:15:01

Brad do you have an idea of what the make, model and housing numbers are for the turbo used on the White 140 engine. What modifications did you have to do to grt the turbo to fit?

Thank you for your help.
A.P.

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A.P.

01-08-2005 06:52:03

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to BradWi, 01-07-2005 10:15:01

Brad do you have an idea of what the make, model and housing numbers are for the turbo used on the White 140 engine. What modifications did you have to do to grt the turbo to fit?

Thank you for your help.
A.P.

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J. Schwiebert

01-06-2005 18:25:04

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to Brad WI, 01-06-2005 16:23:51

The reason you had to advance it 30 degrees is because your Bosch pump is timed to port closure the Roosa to port opening. Confused?

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Brad Wi

01-06-2005 19:08:45

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to J. Schwiebert, 01-06-2005 18:25:04

The roosa pump should run at 4 deg. btdc according to my book factory.I had the best luck advancing it 16deg. this was set up on an engine waterbrake dyno so i had comparison.the a-pump did not wake the motor up until about 10 deg. advance and i continued from there.so your suggestion makes sense. this is the first inline pump that I have worked with so I am still learning as I go.thanks for the info.

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ol George

01-07-2005 20:17:18

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to Brad Wi, 01-06-2005 19:08:45

I want add much, but experience taught us that a steel cam is necessary when turning more than stock application. My cousin and I had one cranking 4800 rpm's and using 65lbs. of boost. The only major changes were lasered inj., steel cam and heated rods all else was standard. Ran hard for 8 years before we ever had a problem.

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J. Schwiebert

01-08-2005 19:40:25

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to ol George , 01-07-2005 20:17:18

George I was up town I guess almost two summers ago and they wer modifying a red block (IH) to accept needle bearings for the cam shaft. Neither the man working on it or the shop foreman had any idea how fast he was going to turn it.

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ol George

01-09-2005 12:32:42

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to J. Schwiebert, 01-08-2005 19:40:25

probably over 5k if they were doing that.

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bastar

01-05-2005 19:16:00

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to WFE, 01-04-2005 22:01:16

I should know better than comment on a pulling motor, however! The 1955 with the 310 engine at Nebraska Tractor test, burnt 6.8 Gallons of fuel per hour, produced 108.1 HP @ 2400 RPM. The Deere 9320 produced 333 HP @ 2100 RPM and burnt 19.6 Gallons per hour. Both on the PTO test.
We know that power is heat (fuel)to produce Torque X RPM. He has to have a big pump, lines & nozzles to get that much HP. How can you get enough OX to burn that much fuel?
I have a friend that builds USAC Midget Race Motors that produce 340+ Hp with 162, Cu In, however that is at 9400 RPM and with all the high tech parts available.

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Kale

01-05-2005 06:57:41

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Re: 310 HiPo for Brad (WI) in reply to WFE, 01-04-2005 22:01:16

is that 310 hp on the drawbar or engine dyno?

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01-08-2005 16:37:51

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Hey Brad? in reply to Kale, 01-05-2005 06:57:41

Hey Brad, what part of WI do you pull in? Maybe run into you with our rig at a pull this summer???

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BradWI

01-10-2005 19:37:51

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Re: Hey Brad? in reply to 88, 01-08-2005 16:37:51

mostly around dane county and surrounding areas

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