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DIYman

05-19-2002 17:57:01




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Hello All,

I am new to this discussion group and would like to get your guidance on my particular requirements.

I have an acre of land on a hillside in San Jose, CA. I need to cut a couple of roads into this and move earth, dig footings for retaining walls, dig trenches, etc. I already have an old Bobcat 310 (500lb loader - 36" wide)which I am restoring. The Bobcat is not powerful enough for any real attachments like a backhoe, auger or trancher, but it is a good loader. Here are my options:

1. The magnatrac Hydro 5000 with loader, backhoe, cat1 hitch, auger, hydro angling blade sounds like a good idea, mainly because of the 6000's noise levels and the limited attachments for the 4800. However, it is quite expensive at around $25,000 plus shipping.

2. A Kubota B2710 or B7500 with a loader, 6.5 ft backhoe, scraper and auger - 4WD reliable, well designed tractor. However this does not have the traction, floation, hydraulic drive of the Magnatrac. I don't know how good this will be on slopes or how well it will perform for moving earth. Price for the B7500 with taxes is $23,000 and for the B2710 is $26,000

3. Chinese tractor (Jinma 254) with a loader and backhoe - The price is great. I am not too comfortable with the reliability, support or quality of these tractors. I also don't like the fact that I will be contributing several thousand dollars of my hard earned money to a communist country. The capability of this tractor is definitely less than the Kubota's

4. Chinese crawler (Nortrac dozer/crawler) with backhoe, auger, scraper. Same issues as above, except this is probably very good on the hillside.

A little about me -
I have no problems working on my equipment, will probably keep this tractor for a long time, use it mainly on the weekends. I need a small machine since I have only 1 acre and once it is finished, I plan to use the machine to perform maintenance and be able to maneuver around trees. I do not want to spend too much time restoring or maintaining the machine, since the point is to get the landscaping done, not restore an old tractor. I already have an old Bobcat 310 and a 80s Toyota truck, both of which need some form of constant maintenance.

Thanks in advance
PN

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david

07-17-2002 22:54:15




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 Re: Request your wise counsel in reply to DIYman, 05-19-2002 17:57:01  
I know I am jumping in late on this, but I thought I might add some information, since I also live in San Jose. I would stick with the strunk(magnatrac). The tractor is stable on a hill side. I have a couple of acres in San Jose (on a hill side)as well, and I have been wishing for a used one, but no one sells them. I did call/email strunk and they told me I would fall out of the seat before the unit flipped over. I looked at the China tractor, but all of the info I have seen says they are a nightmare after the sale. As far as a wheel tractor is concerned the stability is just not the same. I used one when I built my house and drive way, and I won't try it again. Anyway good luck Let me know if you get one.
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David

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gerard mchugh

06-06-2002 03:09:48




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 Re: Request your wise counsel in reply to DIYman, 05-19-2002 17:57:01  
anybody out there know anything about newman tractors-my father has one and says the "net"is useless as it can't tell u all!-i would like to prove him wrong!!



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dave bjork

06-22-2002 03:46:29




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 Re: Re: Request your wise counsel in reply to gerard mchugh, 06-06-2002 03:09:48  

I'am looking for a 265 CI chrysler engine for our E-3 coop. Can anyone tell me where to look?



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DIYman

05-20-2002 12:36:56




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 Re: Request your wise counsel in reply to DIYman, 05-19-2002 17:57:01  
I just found another interesting machine - the Terramite T5.

It is only a two wheel drive tractor and has a 20hp engine, but the dipper and breakout force on the backhoe is in the same range as the Magnatrac and the loader can lift a much larger load (1700lbs?). The big advantage is the price. I can get one used for $7,500 and a new one for $17,000.

I think price is going to play a huge part here, since I do not make a living moving earth.

I also just got the prices on crated jinma tractors to be picked up at a bonded warehouse - $11,000 for a 28hp 4wd tractor with FEL and backhoe!! Despite my objections to Jinma tractors (which include the fact that Jinma has labor camps building some of their engines) this is a very attractive price.

Even so, the Magnatracs still look very attractive and very strong.

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steve

08-21-2002 13:33:09




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 Re: Re: Request your wise counsel in reply to DIYman, 05-20-2002 12:36:56  
Did you check our site?
www . chinabestproducts.com



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Ralph Ross

07-17-2002 18:40:08




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 Re: Re: Request your wise counsel in reply to DIYman, 05-20-2002 12:36:56  
I would like to know where and who to talk to,to buy a jinma 284 4x4 f.e.l & backhoe tactor.(crated for $11,000.00 )If you can give me any infomation on this I would be very grateful. Thank you for your time !! Ralph Ross My email is fullcircle333@hotmail.com My phone # is 561-308-6552



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DIYman

05-19-2002 21:50:49




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 Re: Request your wise counsel in reply to DIYman, 05-19-2002 17:57:01  
I'm just an old country boy, certainly not wise but I promise you I will make the next guy who answers this post look wise.
Stay with Struck a good bunch to get parts from & they have been in the business a long time.
I have over 100hp farm tractor with enloader. Its fine in a forty acre field. But you can do some major damage to buildings ect. because it is so big & can't see or get in close to things. The tractor has wide front but will still turn over & lot of farmers have been killed mowing ditches along a 100 acre field with not a tree is sight. Land around is pretty flat.
Foreign made might be cheap initally, but wait till you need filters, ect for maintance. Lord help if you have to buy parts.
I have an old 16 hp Struck dozier & am very impressed with traction ect. It fits in the back of a pickup. Let us know what you decide!!!!
Led

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DIYman

05-19-2002 23:47:17




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 Re: Re: Request your wise counsel in reply to DIYman, 05-19-2002 21:50:49  
Thanks for the advice. I agree with you that a large tractor with an end loader is definitely not what I want. I am worried about causing damage in close quarters. I also appreciate your vote of confidence to Struck magnatracs. Sounds like you have the Junior.



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