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BF Avery fresh overhaul. Won't start!

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Tonybackache

06-30-2005 06:57:36




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Well we are stupped. Recently put new rod bearings,main bearings & rings. Installed Carb kit. Valves ground in head.
Have fire to the plugs & gas to the carb. Timing & valve settings double checked.
Any suggestions? Mechanic friend thinks Intake Manifold has crack. But I disagree. Crack that big would be obvious with naked eye. I think carb output is not enough. Any suggestions with carb?
Thanks, Tony

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tonybackache

07-18-2005 18:49:59




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 Update * BF Avery fresh overhaul. Won't start! in reply to Tonybackache, 06-30-2005 06:57:36  
Compression checks 50lbs each cylinder. Correct? Intake Carb suction pressure is low according to mechanic. Thinks there is a valve seat loose. One intake valve is leaking.The head was taken to machine shop and fixed accordingly but could still have issues. Waiting on service & parts manual to arrive.



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tonybackache

07-18-2005 18:49:58




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 Update * BF Avery fresh overhaul. Won't start! in reply to Tonybackache, 06-30-2005 06:57:36  
Compression checks 50lbs each cylinder. Correct? Intake Carb suction pressure is low according to mechanic. Thinks there is a valve seat loose. One intake valve is leaking.The head was taken to machine shop and fixed accordingly but could still have issues. Waiting on service & parts manual to arrive.



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Gary Duff

07-07-2005 05:51:39




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 Re: BF Avery fresh overhaul. Won't start! in reply to Tonybackache, 06-30-2005 06:57:36  
Did you get this running if not have you gave it a shot of starting fluid,if its the carb it should at least fire up with at shot of starting fluid.Everyone that I've had troble starting has been the firing order wrong.



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Tonybackache

07-07-2005 06:52:51




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 Re: BF Avery fresh overhaul. Won't start! in reply to Gary Duff, 07-07-2005 05:51:39  
Hello Gary
With what you have said I'm leaning toward wrong firing order. When we give it a shot of starting fluid it doesn't respond as an engine should. Have been doing some researching on this site to familarize myself with timing. It has been so hot here in the Mid-South & since we missed putting the tractor in the parade on the 4th. We will probably stop fiddling with tractor until Fall. Yesterday I ordered Service,Parts & Operator manuals from this site. When they arrive I plan on studying them.

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Craig Anderson

07-03-2005 21:43:15




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 Re: BF Avery fresh overhaul. Won't start! in reply to Tonybackache, 06-30-2005 06:57:36  
Just for the heck of it have you taken the plugs out and primed the cylinders? Herc IXA engine? Those flathead Hercs are some of the best starting engines ever built.
Are you absolutely POSITIVE the distributor firing order is correct?
Even if the carb WAS screwed up it should still RUN...poorly maybe...but run.
Please post back.



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tonybackache

07-04-2005 05:13:53




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 Re: BF Avery fresh overhaul. Won't start! in reply to Craig Anderson, 07-03-2005 21:43:15  
Craig, Engine is IXB-3. To the best of our ability have checked firing order & time. It seems we aren't getting enough gas to the cylinders. Plugs are never wet after choking & cranking resonable time. Carb has good suction pressure since the intake monifold was milled. I'm puting my money on the carb. Local shop put kit into it but it appeares that mixture won't set correct. I would like to try a another carb.
Thanks for replying.

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Craig Anderson

07-04-2005 18:12:57




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 Re: BF Avery fresh overhaul. Won't start! in reply to tonybackache, 07-04-2005 05:13:53  
If you open the gas tank valve and "fill" (as you aren"t sure you"re even GETTING any gas) the carb, then shut off the tank valve and drain the carb...what do you get? When you mentioned "X put a kit..or whatever in it" THAT"S where I"d start too.
This isn"t even funny (well....yes it is!) a friend made a carb gasket for a Fairbanks engine but couldn"t get it to do ANYTHING except wear him out. He took the carb off and discovered his trouble----he forgot the cut the center hole in the gasket..... :-)

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Gene Davis (Ga.)

07-04-2005 20:40:02




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 Re: BF Avery fresh overhaul. Won't start! in reply to Craig Anderson, 07-04-2005 18:12:57  
Saw the no hole gasket deal occur on a J.D. "H" once. Farmer worked on it, made a shoebox gasket betwewen carb and manifold. Also this was a hand crank tractor, he cranked on it for 1/2 day, then decided to bring the magneto to our shop for repair, nothing wrong there. he then pulled the tractor the 5+ miles to the trying repeatedly to crank it on the way to the shop. Checked everything, and found that nothing i did would get gas on to the plugs or cause it to at least pop. Took off air cleaner connection and couldn't feel any vacuum, then took off carb to look into intake manifold and spotted the gasket. Farmer was quite gotten off with.

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tonybackache

07-04-2005 19:08:02




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 Re: BF Avery fresh overhaul. Won't start! in reply to Craig Anderson, 07-04-2005 18:12:57  
Criag I drove over & visited my Dad today. I removed carb the bowl was full of gas. Checked the floats they didn't have any holes and nothing restricting. I wanted to try another Coil but everything closed today. Could you explain proper way to check firing order? The distriubtor wasn't pulled out during overhaul.



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kingmondo

07-22-2005 03:49:43




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 Re: BF Avery fresh overhaul. Won't start! in reply to tonybackache, 07-04-2005 19:08:02  
My guess is that some of the passages in your carburetor are plugged. If your plugs aren`t getting wet after all that cranking and you have gas in the carburetor bowl; that is a likely the problem. Try another carburetor.



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