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B-maniac

02-28-2006 15:06:19

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Gentlemen; Just want you to know that I have found nothing more than what all of you have already posted reguarding this issue of respirators. I will go on record as saying this;If you are going to spray ANY refinish products... use an approved for this use,supplied air respirator system. I say "any" because they ALL contain hazardous chemicals that when breathed or absorbed can and have caused adverse affects in the human body.It is also a fact that no cartridge respirator is 100% effective even if fitted correctly. We use a water soluable paint at the factory where I work. Sounds harmless doesn't it? Guess what' it has amonia in it.I for one and probably many other people are alergic to amonia! It gives me athsmatic symptoms identical to that of iso's. Even the 2 hr. delay. I don't get into the painting much anymore there,as it's a full time job supervising the 4 booths.We put on 55 gal per day.Yes we use cartridge resp. and they do work but there are times when you get exposed to it . There is one alternative for a DIYer that requires no respirator. This will work for any solid color paint.(ie not metalic) You WILL want to use a catylized product on this. You apply the paint with a fine soft haired brush in 3 to 4 heavy coats so the brush marks flow together. Let it cure for a month or more. Block sand it smooth with 600 wet paper,then 1000 paper,then 1500 paper. Then buff it out shiny with a wool bonett on a 2500 rpm buffer with fine compound and then with a fine polish and then a good hand pokish. You will have the best of both worlds...a paint job that will last and look as good or better than if you sprayed it.Probably better because there won't be any dirt or runs! It does work! I wouldnt do it,but it is onother choice that I havn't seen on these forums yet. Well, if it's ok with everybody, I'm going to remove the rope from my neck now.I'm really not the &ss hole that you may think I am. After all,I have switched from cars to tractors as my main hobby. Thank you all,and I think a lot of people will bennefit from ALL the opinions on this subject. Our opinions are just that,after all.

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CNKS

02-28-2006 17:07:33

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Re: The Buck Stops Here! in reply to B-maniac, 02-28-2006 15:06:19

I'm glad you convinced yourself. Like Rod says, what you do concerning your health is your business, it's just not proper to give advice that might be harmful to others without knowing the full story. As to ammonia, my first full time job after college was as a lab technician in a soils/plant lab for the USDA-Agricultural Research Service. Kind of ironic because I knew little about chemisty, passed the courses but that was about it. Ammonium hydroxide, Sodium hydroxide, hydrochloric (muratic) acid, sulfuric acid, perchloric acid and nitric acid were common lab chemicals. Not the kind you might find in farm stores, but the straight from the manufacturer concentrated stuff. We diluted to suit depending on the procedure. No masks, only a ill-working fume hood for the real mean stuff. Most of the time I didn't even use that. I have allergies to none of those, but my smeller doesn't work as good as it used to. I smelled some of those, notably the ammonia for hours after I went home. But, all those are inorganic compounds. There are many organic compounds, Iso's are only one, that can cause real problems. Because of what I did in my younger days, I am now careful with about everything.

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Rod (NH)

02-28-2006 16:31:22

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Re: The Buck Stops Here! in reply to B-maniac, 02-28-2006 15:06:19

B---,

There's no rope and I don't think anyone ever considered you an ahole, certainly not me. I did think you were foolish if you were allergic to isos and continued to use them yourself with a cartridge respirator. Still do. However, that was your choice. You've been around long enough to be fully capable of making such a decision for yourself. We just disagreed on a specific point regarding recommendations to others who may not be fully aware of what they might be getting into. In any event a lively discusssion is usually good as it makes all parties think a bit more than they normally would, usually everyone involved learns something new in the process and it gets the lurkers rushing back to see the next post.

Rod

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