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mace56

04-21-2006 17:59:54




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I want to start small. Graduate from rattle can. Willing to do a hobby air style hood.

If I do divide my project up into small parts by masking and disassembly... Can I spray epoxy primers and top coat with just a good touchup HVLP gun?

I figure that way my mistakes can be small as I learn. Eventually paint a whole Allis B 'One Piece at a Time' like Johnny Cash.

Want to try and avoid ventilation issues in a two car garage with visqueen 'spray booth'. Afraid a full size gun would result in serious fog. The warnings of VOCs are scary indeed. I have close relative that is old farm mechanic and part time 'body guy', developed serious health issues in later years. I have no doubt due to reformulated paints. Amazing that the paint sales guys seem to avoid discussion of it altogether.

Thanks Rod NH, your website is a great resource. Also Jason for the paint comparison pics. Aan all to other regulars on this forum.

I think my wife thinks I surf for porn.

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davpal

04-21-2006 20:49:26




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 Re: touch up gun for beginner in reply to mace56, 04-21-2006 17:59:54  
I bought one of those little touch up guns from our local paint store and it works Great! If you are just doing little jobs they are more than adequate to do the job. A hood would be no problem, especially if you are doing a basecoat,clearcoat paint job. I did a custom snowmobile a few years ago with one of those and it turned out beautiful. I am thinking we used Dupont Chromabase from Finishmaster. Those guns are very easy to control with the small cup and and top finger trigger. You can paint very controlled and precise. If you are going to do a project that uses a quart of paint it is ok, but I would not want to do an entire tractor with one because you will become frustrated on how fast the cup runs out. They spray almost as much as a regular gun but have the small cup./ Nice for hobbies though. Good luck.

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mace56

04-21-2006 20:00:18




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 Re: paint gun for beginner in reply to mace56, 04-21-2006 17:59:54  
Thanks CNKS. So a quality gun, perhaps with slightly smaller cup would be a good compromise. I thought maybe the smaller pattern would be easier to manage. I have heard that better guns have better patterns.
Many posts seem imply an advantage to the old line acrylic enamels like Centauri and Delstar. Are they more forgiving than the newer urethanes or are folks just used to working with them? Sorry for the 1000 questions.

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CNKS

04-21-2006 20:18:51




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 Re: paint gun for beginner in reply to mace56, 04-21-2006 20:00:18  
From what Rod has said, Delstar and Centari are still excellent paints. Perhaps not as good as the Concept and Imron urethanes, but better than the "economy" PPG and Dupont urethanes. I have only used PPG Omni (MTK) acrylic urethane. I find it VERY forgiving. If I can paint with it anyone can. Very little orange peel (I have a quality gun), and you have to mess up pretty good to get runs. Problem I am currently having is unidentified "cooties" in the paint, not the paints fault. I have contamination somewhere. Yes, the better guns have better patterns. My experience is that you may have difficulty getting as good a pattern with a touch up gun as with a full size, but that is only my experience with a 2 gun comparison, both quality guns (both made by Sharpe). My use of a touch up gun is reserved for parts that are simply too small, and that require mixing too much paint for a full size gun. I am referring mostly to small cast parts, rods, levers, etc, along with lights.

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CNKS

04-21-2006 19:36:15




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 Re: touch up gun for beginner in reply to mace56, 04-21-2006 17:59:54  
Yes, you can use a touch-up gun. It will have less overspray per pass, but you will have to make more passes. It may be less overwhelming due to it's small size. But, if you paint, say, a hood with one, you will ultimately get the same amount of overspray. As to the mistakes being smaller, not necessarily. A run is a run and orange peel is orange peel. My full size gun is higher quality, and does a better job than my touch-up gun. Biggest disadvantage is that they don't hold as much paint, only 100-150 ml compared to 946 ml for a full quart cup. It is amazing how much you can paint with one, but you don't want to have to refill in the middle of a hood. If you buy one, buy a good one -- name brand, not a Chinese knock off. May cost you $150-$200, you won't regret it.

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rustyj14

04-28-2006 20:07:50




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 Re: touch up gun for beginner in reply to CNKS, 04-21-2006 19:36:15  
Aww, c'mon--telling the guy to spend $150 or more for a spray gun!! I worked as an auto body man and painter for 50 years or more, and the only spray guns i used were the $40 guns i bought at the flea market! I painted new cars, old cars, customs, antiques, plain enamel, metallics, laquer, base coat/ clear coats, everything. I turned out refinished cars that matched the original factory finishes! Those spray guns were exact copies of Binks and DeVilbiss guns! In fact, the parts were inter-changable! It ain't the spray gun--it's the man behind it! Rustyj

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Broomstacker

04-21-2006 18:21:21




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 Re: touch up gun for beginner in reply to mace56, 04-21-2006 17:59:54  
"I think my wife thinks I surf for porn."

LOL Ain't it the truth!! Look at the headlights on that one! Man, that chassis is shot! Ain't she a beaut!? I'd sure like to get my hands on that one! All she needs is some TLC.....



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