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Automotive Coatings...A Brief History

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sammy the RED

04-27-2006 17:20:43




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The automotive coatings industry began with the mass production of automobiles in the early 1900s. By 1903, every major producer of vehicles was coating its products with typically the same finish: India enamels. .....

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Rod (NH)

04-27-2006 19:08:24




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 Re: Automotive Coatings...A Brief History in reply to sammy the RED, 04-27-2006 17:20:43  
Sammy,

Nitrocellulose enamel? That's interesting. I've always heard it referred to as a lacquer.

CN,

I have a 1983 Chev truck that had the worst OEM paint job I have ever seen on a vehicle. I think (but don't know) that was when GM was experimenting to some extent with waterborne enamels as a "fix" for tighter air emission standards. It was a single stage paint. I don't think it was an alkyd. I suspect it was an acrylic enamel but it sure did peel off easy - what was left over from it falling off by itself. A few years back I repainted the cab with Centari w/Ultra Performance Pak. It did have an excellnt primer under it however. I think it was the EDP stuff that was mentioned in Sammy's link.

Rod

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CNKS

04-27-2006 19:30:37




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 Re: Automotive Coatings...A Brief History in reply to Rod (NH), 04-27-2006 19:08:24  
I don't know what it was. The work truck was an 84 blue Chevy, I had my own two tone 84 chevy blue and silver. It was stolen in 1992, the paint was still in very good shape except it was beginning to peel in the bottom front of the bed. I think it was inevitable that it would have eventually peeled off. I mentioned single stage AU -- was that ever OEM paint, or did they go straight to bc/cc from acrylic enamel or whatever they were using in the late 80's?

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Rod (NH)

04-28-2006 09:05:52




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 Re: Automotive Coatings...A Brief History in reply to CNKS, 04-27-2006 19:30:37  
I don't know. I can't recall ever seeing any reference to an OEM SS urethane. American manufacturers were even slow to get into bc/cc if I remember correctly. My wife had a Honda that was base/clear in 1979. The early '80s were, I think, a time of transition for many OEMs, especially GM. The type of paint, at least back then, may have depended on model and assembly plant. I think my truck was made in an Ontario plant. The poor paint was (apparently) the subject of a recall but I was never informed about it. When I found out after about 12 years and a loss of about 30% of the topcoat, I inquired about having GM fix the problem. That gave the GM people a good laugh for that day.

It was dark blue by the way, code 29L, ss, solid color (non-metallic).

Rod

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CNKS

04-28-2006 13:56:31




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 Re: Automotive Coatings...A Brief History in reply to Rod (NH), 04-28-2006 09:05:52  
I think 29 was the color of the two I had also too -- My personal truck was much better, but eventually it would have peeled off. As you know they also had problems with the first base clear that came out in 1988, at least I think it was base-clear, my 92 was, they had gotten it right by then. I think they had problems with two totally different paint systems, but it also hit Ford and Chrysler, I suppose to a lesser extent.

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CNKS

04-27-2006 17:56:10




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 Re: Automotive Coatings...A Brief History in reply to sammy the RED, 04-27-2006 17:20:43  
I have seen various versions of that article, thanks for posting it. Of the modern paints mentioned, alkyd enamel and acrylic laquer (although newer than alkyd enamel) are the worst. I believe the acrylic lacquer fades worse and chalks worse than the alkyd enamel. I think most of the 50's?-80's GM cars had acrylic laquer on them. The worst I have ever seen was an 81 Monte Carlo I bought new. It had a 20 year old paint job in 5 years in spite of my best efforts to take care of it. The early-mid 80's GM pickups must have still used alkyd enamel (should have at least been acrylic enamel by then). I had one of those furnished by my employer that the paint came off when I dried it with a towel, not to mention peeling to the primer--a common problem until about 1990. Alkyd enamel and laquer needed waxing every 6 weeks-two months, or they quickly lose their shine. The article left out single stage acrylic urethane. Although not as good as bc/cc, it has excellent gloss and little fade. Paint has come a long way. That's why I recommend more modern paint, even on tractors.

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rustyj14

04-28-2006 19:56:06




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 Re: Automotive Coatings...A Brief History in reply to CNKS, 04-27-2006 17:56:10  
A fellow drives past my home every day, in his older model GM pickup. It is light blue metallic in color. That truck has been peeling for nigh onto 10 years or so! I saw it today, and most of it is down to the gray primer! He told me he calls it "Banana", because it has appeal! Yuk: Rustyj



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