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1st Time Painting Advice?

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Tony (A2, MI)

06-25-2006 07:41:02




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Hello,

Trying to decide whether to paint the F-20 I just got running for the first time in 50 years or have it done by someone with experience?

I do not have a great space to paint (old barn). I do not want to invest serious cash in the breathing equipment but would like the best paint that will fit my situation. I have never painted before.

Could someone walk me through the products I might choose that would be best in the above scenario. Please keep it simple as, again, I've never painted before.

Thanks,

Tony

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CNKS

06-25-2006 09:20:44




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 Re: 1st Time Painting Advice? in reply to Tony (A2, MI), 06-25-2006 07:41:02  
Epoxy primer on everything, sandable laquer primer surfacer over the epoxy on the sheet metal, this will give you a smooth finish. Then topcoat with acrylic enamel. Use PPG, DuPont, Sherwin Williams, etc. The acrylic enamel will give you fade resistance. PPG numbers are MP 170 epoxy, MP 175 catalylst (no iso's), MP 181 primer surfacer, MAE acrylic enamel. If you wish you can use Case IH 2150 red acrylic modified alkyd enamel, provided your tractor is past, I believe Nov 1936. if it is gray someone else can give you the code. If you want a perfect job strip all old paint and rust. Others will probably recommend paint from TSC or somewhere. The difference in cost in the tractor store paint and acrylic enamel, put in perspective, is about one tank of gas for your pickup. Including the better primers, maybe 3 or 4 tanks of gas. The 2150 I mentioned is technically the wrong color, but is close. The PPG/Dupont numbers for IH 50 for 1936-1949 tractors is 70019/7410. If you decide to have 2150 equivalent mixed the codes are PPG 71310/DuPont 96766. You need to read every post on this forum, as it is more complex than the explanation I have given.

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Bill of TN

06-25-2006 10:36:23




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 Re: 1st Time Painting Advice? in reply to CNKS, 06-25-2006 09:20:44  
I painted my MF 135 a few years ago using dealer paint....I did add hardner and sprayed outdoors with a charcol mask.....most will tell you not to do this but maybe I got lucky.....

First....clean everything.....then clean everything again..... .and when your sure you've got it clean then clean it all again..... I spent several days with degreaser and a pressure washer.....paint won't stick to grease.....

If your painting outside.....spray when the heat is below 85 degrees or so, and in the shade.....no wind is a plus..... .

To get a good looking paint job about 95% of the work occurs before spraying the paint..... take off what will come off...hoses....starter....alt.....then tape off everything you don't want painted.....

As far as paint and primer....don't know a darn thing about that..... .I just bought it all from the dealer and the only real problem I had was after I got the body work done and several coats of primer worked out smooth as a babys butt, I thought one more coat..... I sprayed as the dew was falling and the primer job crinkeled really bad..... had to sand it all off and start all over....so....pick a good day when the humidity is low and the wind won't blow dust into the paint.....

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B-maniac

06-25-2006 13:36:54




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 Re: 1st Time Painting Advice? in reply to Bill of TN, 06-25-2006 10:36:23  
All the product knowlege in the world isn't going to help you if you don't have good conditions in which to use them. Also this is going to take a complete commitment from start to finish.I would say the dropout rate is around 70% for people in the same situation as you.By dropout rate,I'm including the ones that get half way through,get discouraged and just spray on some cheap color to get it out of the barn.I'm not doubting your ability to learn,but if you could only talk to a fraction of those 70%,I believe your decision would be made.If you decide to have it done somewhere,ask for references,communicate honestly your priorities or show them a tractor done to the quality level you desire,Also ask them if you can help on some of the labor intensive parts of the job to help keep the price down.The more you do on the job,the more you will be glad you made the decision.Also the more you see the equipment and conditions involved to do it correctly,you will see what you saved on that also.Unless you plan on doing a lot of tractors after this one,all that expense is still expense.The satisfaction of doing it yourself is nice but be prepared to pay a hefty price!Good luck whichever way you go.The more tractors we save,the better!

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