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Stephen R. Hort

06-26-2006 08:34:07

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Hi folks,
I'm hoping for some detailed Dupont product info help. I've been hanging around reading this forum and the others here for several years. I am a hobbiest at best, and I have assembled a painting setup, and I finally feel that I'm ready to go. I've got a big 7.5 (real) HP compressor, 2 HVLP spray guns (one with 1.4 mm tip and another 1.7 mm tip), and I bought a fresh air supplied respirator. Now, my first warm-up/learning project will be my tractor hauling trailor (about to have it sandblasted), and I'm hoping to graduate to painting my 2 Fords - 860 and 861. A friend of a friend recommended a local automotive paint house (Dupont dealer). I recently went there, but the folks didn't seem too knowledgable on things, and they had trouble telling me which primer would work with which paint. For the trailer, I 'think' I want to put down an Epoxy primer and then follow-up with a single stage Urethane (color: white). They had White Dupont Imron for $40 a gallon, so I was thinking of going with that. Can anyone using Dupont product share with me what product numbers, etc you're using? I'd like to just go back with numbers in hand and not have to rely on the local advice. thanks, Stephen (PS. I've registered for Dupont's performancecoatings web page, but haven't gotten confirmed yet).

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Stephen R. Horton (TX)

06-27-2006 08:02:18

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Re: Ready to Paint - Dupont product info needed in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 06-26-2006 08:34:07

Thanks for the replies folks. I've been reviewing the tech sheets on Dupont's performance coatings web page. Can anyone give me a rundown of the differences between Imron Elite, Imron 5000, Imron 6000, Imron 2000 and Imron 5.0? Its hard for me to tell any difference between them based on the tech sheets. thanks.

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Frank Stalfire

06-27-2006 20:00:24

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Re: Ready to Paint - Dupont product info needed in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 06-27-2006 08:02:18

HI.... Imron 5.0 is the old Imron, low solids, hign VOC and HAPS, Imron is what the truck manufactuers were using, high solids LOw VOC Low HAPS, spray in 1 and a 1/2 coats, hard for beginers to use because of the high solids. Imron 2000 is a 2 coat version of 5000, easier to use but now is a 2 coat vs. a 1 and a 1/2. Imron 6000 is base/ clear. Imron Elite is the newest, the truck manufactuers want to go to robotics and needed a coating with tints that were a consistant viscosity and thus Imron Elite was introduced, I would use 5.0 or 2000 if you are going to use a fleet finish, you will also get good results from Industrial Imron 3.5HG, sprays like 2000, lower price.

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Stephen R. Horton (TX)

06-28-2006 08:01:45

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Re: Ready to Paint - Dupont product info needed in reply to Frank Stalfire, 06-27-2006 20:00:24

Thanks Frank, that's exactly what I needed. Is there also a lower price, industrial version of the Corlar 934s?
stephen

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Frank Stalfire

06-28-2006 20:28:46

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Re: Ready to Paint - Dupont product info needed in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 06-28-2006 08:01:45

In Industrial it would be Imron 3.2PR or use Nason Ful Poxy

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Rod (NH)

06-26-2006 17:57:31

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Re: Ready to Paint - Dupont product info needed in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 06-26-2006 08:34:07

Hi Stephen,

You don't need to register at the DuPont website to gain access to the technical information. You should be able to access all the information except the actual color formulas by logging in as a visitor. Just go here, log in as "visitor" using the visitor clickable link and follow this path for the data sheets on IMRON and similar products:

Products>Technical Information>OEM/Fleet

You then will have a list of the data sheets for that particular line, all in .pdf format.

White Imron at only $40/gal?

Rod

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EX-pro

06-26-2006 16:30:19

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Re: Ready to Paint - Dupont product info needed in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 06-26-2006 08:34:07

DuPont URO-PRIME can be used as primer/surfacer and sealer. If it is in the budget, it is the best.

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Frank Stalfire

06-26-2006 13:47:42

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Re: Ready to Paint - Dupont product info needed in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 06-26-2006 08:34:07

HI, Good luck with your projects take your time and have fun with it. the primer you want is Corlar 934S and 936s activator. use your 1.4 gun and apply two medium coats with 20-30 minutes between coats and wait at least an hour and then apply topcoat without sanding the primer, stick with the 1.4 for the topcoat and enjoy
Frank

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Stephen R. Horton (TX)

06-26-2006 15:53:28

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Re: Ready to Paint - Dupont product info needed in reply to Frank Stalfire, 06-26-2006 13:47:42

Hi Frank,
Thanks for the reply. Did you mean to say use my 1.7 gun for the primer (as I was thinking it would be to thick/heavy for the 1.4)? Just wanted to make sure. Can you recommend the surfacer to use as well for when I start on the tractors? Also, is there only one type of Imron topcoat, and do you have a part number for it as well? Thanks for the help.
stephen

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Frank Stalfire

06-29-2006 06:47:03

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Re: Ready to Paint - Dupont product info needed in reply to Stephen R. Horton (TX), 06-26-2006 15:53:28

believe it or not, the higher the solids the smaller the tip size you use, the higher the solids the smaller the resin size so a smaller tip will disperse it more evenly, like the difference between a bag of marbles and a bag of sand, you can fit more particles in the same size container if the particle is smaller. we do reccomend a big tip for primer only because of speed, with high solids the paint is slow to come out of the gun, the bigger tip gets it out faster but not fine enough for a smooth finish lkie you want in a top coat, with promer you don't really worry about the orange peel. So, stick to a 1.4 for topcoat, if the paint is really high in solids you may want to consider giving it a little "push" with a pressure pot

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