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Frozen/thawed paint

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JMS/MN

07-17-2006 20:16:31




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New, never opened can of AGCO Corporate orange paint sat over winter in unheated portion of shop. I think I'm using the same type/ratio of thinner, but no hardener as before. After a few minutes, paint sprays out poorly, gets very sticky, trigger does not reset by itself. Gun has been thoroughly cleaned after primer was painted. Any ideas? TIA.




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Gary in Mozarks

07-25-2006 13:22:04




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 Re: Frozen/thawed paint in reply to JMS/MN, 07-17-2006 20:16:31  
sounds like a dirty gun to me



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Rod (NH)

07-18-2006 17:57:30




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 Re: Frozen/thawed paint in reply to JMS/MN, 07-17-2006 20:16:31  
Hi,

I'd check to make sure you are using the exact thinner that is recomended on the AGCO can label. The fact that the gun trigger does not reset (reseat?) by itself, assuming the spring is in place, is an indication that the needle packing is too tight (or the needle is slightly bent). Try loosening the packing a little. That packing is also supposed to be lubricated every once a while (lightly) with spray gun lubricant. As far as spraying poorly goes, I'd check whatever recommendations there are on the AGCO can label for thinning ratio. If there are none, then it's a trial and error proposition to get there from here. Some paints are not thinned at all, so be sure of the label information. Also verify that you are using a correct air pressure at the gun inlet. Assuming a non-HVLP gun and a typical enamel, your gun pressure should be between 40 and 60 psig at the gun with the trigger pulled and the fan adjustment wide open. Install a gage there to check. If that doesn't help, be sure the gun is, in fact, thoroughly cleaned by complete disassembly and inspection. If there is a gasket under the fluid tip, you could try replacing that. Or a complete gun rebuild if a kit is available. Otherwise, I'd look into gun replacement. Your problem is not related to any prior cold storage of the paint. All my paint is stored in an unheated shop all winter with temps occasionally getting below zero F. I've done that for many years without a problem.

Rod

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JMS/MN

07-20-2006 17:35:54




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 Re: Frozen/thawed paint in reply to Rod (NH), 07-18-2006 17:57:30  
Thanks- some of the things you mention have been done, and I appreciate the ideas you bring up. Glad to hear that the storage should not be the problem. I really suspect the thinner, so I'll start with that after another good cleaning. The trigger works ok when starting, but sticks after a few minutes of spraying, and the paint gets very sticky. System pressure is 40 psi at the regulator, so I'll check at the gun- might need a boost. I've done several tractors and other machines with this painting equipment and never run into a problem like this before. Maybe it's because it needs to be done for a show coming up too quickly! My AC WF frame/rear is on a stand and the parts are hanging from a scaffold trailer- looks like the Clampett's heading for CA.

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