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correct color and hardner for IH

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Glen Thibodeaux

10-15-2006 15:02:39




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What is the correct color/paint code for IH "CUB" - "MV" 1945-1957? On this site they list 2 paint codes, IHC Red 7410 Dulux and Red TP110, what is the difference? I have seen another posting saying IH #2150 is PPG Ditzler #71310, what is IH #2150? Does anyone have any comments on Carquest brand tractor & implement enamel IH Red # 14-277G? Last question, does someone make a hardner for alkyd enamels? Sorry about all of the FNG questions. Thanks, Glen

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CNKS

10-15-2006 17:50:21




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 Re: correct color and hardner for IH in reply to Glen Thibodeaux, 10-15-2006 15:02:39  
First of all ignore the paint codes given on this site. They may be correct, they may not be. This is too large a site for the people who run it to know every detail. As to hardener, use the one recommended by the maker of the paint you decide to use. If you use hardener, you need a supplied air system that costs $4-$600. A charcoal mask is not adequate, although there are people that will argue that point. There are also people who can estimate which hardener to use with the paint you decide to use, one they have had success with, that does not necessarily mean that you will be successful, though -- I prefer to pay the price for quality paint and do what the manufacturer says -- the manufacturer knows far more about their products than I or anyone else do. IH used at least four paint codes from the period 1936-1970's or so. From November 1936-mid?-1949, the color was IH 50. That crosses to PPG 70019/DuPont 7410. Sherwin Williams and others also sell it, I don't know the codes, the dealer will, provided you give him a PPG/DuPont number. From about mid 1949 until 1958, the color was 1102b -- I do not know if that can be mixed anymore, you will have to ask your dealer. From 1958-1961 the color was IH 201, don't know if that can be mixed either. From 1961-until ?? the color was the still available IH 2150 which crosses to PPG 71310/DuPont 96766. I do not know what the difference is between these colors, as 2150 is the only one I have ever seen. There will be differences in shade between the IH versions and those of the paint manufacturers. If you don't like the color, you can have your PPG/DuPont, etc dealer change the ratio of a couple of the toners until you are satisfied, you will have to buy a pint of paint each time, though. All alkyd enamels will fade, you are better off with acrylic enamel or acrylic urethane. For acrylic urethane, you must have hardener. WIth acrylic enamel it is your choice. I imagine that Carquest is alkyd enamel, as most premixed paints are, although I have heard some aren't. Most of the cheap brands of paint do have recommended hardeners. The 7410 DuPont dulux listed on this site is alkyd enamel. I think the TP110 is Tisco, it will also be alkyd enamel--probably not a dimes worth of difference between them, as basically alkyd is alkyd. Case-IH 2150 is an "acrylic modified" alkyd enamel, that is it has some acrylic properties, including UV inhibitors to prevent fading. I use acrylic urethane, I don't think anything less than acrylic enamel is worth spending your money for (others will disagree, which is fine with me). "You get what you pay for". I really don't think the old "correct" colors exist anymore, and that even IH varied in their mixing, so I would not be concerned about getting the "exact" shade -- and no one can tell you yours is wrong, either.

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