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PPG code for current CaseIh red.

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jcarter

12-05-2006 06:00:43




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I want to repaint a fading Magnum tractor with PPG single stage industrial paint.Should stay shinier and be more durable than Caseih paint.What is the best code color to match this color.I've seen codes for the2150 match, but is this color a little different? This paint is supposed to be uerethane,I think? I will be putting Omini epoxy under it.Also, has anybody tried black epoxy under the red instead of the usual grey? Would it make it a little darker red? Thanks, Jim.

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jcarter

12-07-2006 10:47:45




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 Re: PPG code for current CaseIh red. in reply to jcarter, 12-05-2006 06:00:43  
Thanks guys; I've got a ppg dealer fairly close by so will use their product.I know that 2150 is not the current"color". I did use it on a SW4 I painted.I bought a can of CaseIh's other red as well, and didn't see a real big amount of difference between the two.I checked then with PPg store and they didn't have a number to match currant or old IH paint, but several chips,which you start second guessing when you look at them for awhile trying to pick the right one. Jim.

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CNKS

12-08-2006 06:37:29




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 Re: PPG code for current CaseIh red. in reply to jcarter, 12-07-2006 10:47:45  
PPG has a number for 2150; it is 71310, I have bought several gallons of it, if you read the number on the can of the latest CIH paint, they should be able to cross that too. The chips are questionable. The actual paint is questionable for that matter. But have them mix up whatever number you want -- forget the chips and have them adjust the toners to get a color you like. PPG usually puts the number and description of the toners on the back of the label on the can. If not they can give you a printout of what they did, you can take it from there. You will probably need to adjust the amounts of only a couple of toners to change the shade. It will cost you some money, but will get what you consider to be the correct color, which is the only important thing. Then keep the printout, and they can "exactly" duplicate it any time you want.

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glennster

12-06-2006 13:48:44




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 Re: PPG code for current CaseIh red. in reply to jcarter, 12-05-2006 06:00:43  
i have 2 paint codes that cross over for 2150 in Rm paints. in uno, single stage the paint code is 8287a, and for diamont base coat clear coat it is the same 8287a. your paint supplier can cross over the rm code to ppg. rm recommends a medium gray primer, if you use a black primer, it will shift the red hugh to a little darker shade of red.



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jcarter

12-07-2006 05:08:29




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 Re: PPG code for current CaseIh red. in reply to glennster, 12-06-2006 13:48:44  
Where do you find Rm paints?I am not sure if 2150 is the shade they are using now or not.I bought a rattle can of 2150 and one that I can't remember the # of.I really couldn't see much difference.After a couple of years , new tractors are faded to different tints anyway, so if it is close to begin with, maybe thats all that matters.I was thinking that the black primer would create a little darker red as well.

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CNKS

12-07-2006 08:42:04




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 Re: PPG code for current CaseIh red. in reply to jcarter, 12-07-2006 05:08:29  
2150 is not the paint that IH uses now -- again contact your CaseIH dealer, or ask on www.redpowermagazine.com.



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glennster

12-07-2006 07:53:18




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 Re: PPG code for current CaseIh red. in reply to jcarter, 12-07-2006 05:08:29  
your local body shop paint supplier may handle rm products, but you can use the ppg as well, they can cross over paint codes to different manufacturers. selecting your paint brand is more of a personal matter of choice. i think all the quality brands of paint will give you good results, as long as you follow their proceedures and use the products compatible with their paint lines. each painter has a brand preference because that is what they are used to, and comfortable with. they generally know the ins and outs of the product line and make adjustments as necessary. regarding the 8287a color code, that is the rm cross over for i-h 2150. if you want to go with a lighter or darker red, they can tint to alter the formula where you like it. i am looking at our color chips for 2150, if you want to go to a little darker red, have them mix up a few numbers like 8292a, a little lighter red try 8285a. your paint supplier should have color chips, you can shop thru them to get a color you like. take a sample of a painted part with you , and compare it to the chips. if they dont have chips, stop by a local body shop, they should have color chips you could look at.

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CNKS

12-05-2006 08:42:26




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 Re: PPG code for current CaseIh red. in reply to jcarter, 12-05-2006 06:00:43  
I don't know the code, you can call your CaseIH dealer and ask him to read you the number on the can on his shelf -- the actual number, not the name, as the name is really meaningless. The CaseIH paint will be an acrylic modified alkyd enamel, same as 2150. I don't think you can actually buy the paint put on the new tractors, as the application process is different, someone else can fill you in on that. The color of the epoxy or other primer is not supposed to affect the final color. It "may" be that the black color is easier to cover, but PPG and other major brands of paints cover in 2 or 3 coats regardedless of what is under them. I actually prefer a lighter color under the topcoat because it is easier for me to see if I have total coverage. But, a chip down to the primer will be less noticeable with a black primer rather than gray.

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