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JaredM

01-03-2007 14:39:36




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I am planning on painting my 4020 which I still use for every kind of farm work. I want a paint job that will hold up but I don"t want expensive, high gloss show paints. What is a good reasonably priced paint I was thinking of using Deere or TSC brand paint. If I went Deere are there any disadvantages to their fast dry formula paint. What primer do I use and do I need to add thinner or hardner to paint. Should I give it clear coat. I want to do this right and my girlfriends brother-in-law who has painted before is gonna help me and we are using his equipment. Sorry if you have answered this before but all I saw were discussions on painting tractors for shows. Thanks for any help. JaredM

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mike a. tenn

01-09-2007 04:41:58




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to JaredM, 01-03-2007 14:39:36  
i know i'm gonna get some flack for this but...if you go to all the trouble and expense of putting a good shiny paint job on your "working" tractor, you might not want to use it for fear of getting it scratched and messed up. you can make your tractor look "nice" by using some of the better paints in spray cans. and if you do scratch it up you can easily touch it up with them. tractor supply carries a pretty good line of them in actual tractor colors, you can also find some "close" ones at NAPA dealers. do a good job of preping and priming and follow directions on the cans and you'd be surprised at how good they can turn out.
my "working" tractor gets so torn up doing the things i use it for, i'd get sick if i spent a lot of time and money on a paint job and then tore it all up using the tractor. just a thought.

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rmartin

01-06-2007 13:56:39




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to JaredM, 01-03-2007 14:39:36  
ive used the industrial enamels from tractor supply if its something im just wanting to do a little dressing up, thinned it with mineral spirits, and an airless sprayer. probably not show quality but looked plenty good for something you use regularly. ive painted a d-5 dozer twice in about 5 years, several trailers. track hoe, and a bunch of little misc. projects, just clean the tractor up really good, amd make sure to check all the settings on the airless. it does not atomize the paint as a automotive type spray gun would. when you pull the trigger on the airless all you will be getting is paint and lots of it if you are not prepared.

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rmartin

01-06-2007 14:00:26




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to rmartin, 01-06-2007 13:56:39  
it was a d-6 dozer, sorry i got fat fingers.



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Mike S 806/H

01-04-2007 23:18:07




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to JaredM, 01-03-2007 14:39:36  
I would use the JD paint AG green from the JD dealer, Everybody here seams to call it cheap paint ( in a way it is) but it's good enough to put on new JD Tractors that cost over $200,000. I have painted many tractors with this paint, I use hardener with it, Acrylic enamel hardener and acrylic reducer buy this at a auto paint store,



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CNKS

01-05-2007 06:37:50




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to Mike S 806/H, 01-04-2007 23:18:07  
It may be good enough, but I don't think any major manufacturer uses alkyd enamel (JD paint) anymore. The factory painting process is entirely different, along with much better paint. Modern factory finishes are much better than any painter can do.



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jason(ma)

01-13-2007 13:45:57




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to CNKS, 01-05-2007 06:37:50  
company near me was making the molded roof's for JD. They were using val spar's urethane in an industrial line, I've ended up with 5 gal of the stuff after they closed the shop here. I'll post the numbers if anyone cares.



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1 Dollar

01-06-2007 21:14:46




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to CNKS, 01-05-2007 06:37:50  
Just to add to the superb quality of factory paint jobs...

I took a tour of the JD harvester works this fall and those combines have paint in every nook & cranny. The paint system alone was in the multi-millions and had 10 plus stages of dip tanks for rinsing in water, soutions, sealers, paint and whatever else I have already forgot. It was very interesting. Here is the link if you really want to wade through my 103 pictures of the factory. Feel free to look at other albums as well.

Link

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CNKS

01-07-2007 09:21:45




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to 1 Dollar, 01-06-2007 21:14:46  
Much different from the old days when I think all they had was a big vat of paint sitting in the corner!



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hay

01-04-2007 04:33:23




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to JaredM, 01-03-2007 14:39:36  
if you do a cheap paint job, you will get a cheap paint job that won't last long. TSC brand paint,IMO, is not a good quality paint. DuPont or PPG or Martin Senor or something similar in a ACRYLIC enamel is good quality paint. don't scrimp on the primer either. and above all, if you want the finish to last a long time, then prepare the surface by sanding and clean, clean clean it before painting. wipe the clean surface with VM&P Naptha to remove any surface dust and grease before painting. a clean surface is the key to any good paint job.

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CNKS

01-03-2007 17:52:50




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to JaredM, 01-03-2007 14:39:36  
Buy acrylic enamel from a reputable company such as PPG or DuPont, in the Omni or Nason lines. Sherwin Williams or NAPA will also have it. Stay away from the old technology synthetic enamels from JD and TSC. It will probably cost you about $60 a gallon, maybe a little more. 2X and 3X more than Deere or TSC, but worth it for the durability and fade resistance. There is little advantage to clear coating single stage paint. Don't use hardener, reading between the lines of your post, you do not have the proper protective equipment, i.e. supplied air.

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CNKS

01-03-2007 17:56:43




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to CNKS, 01-03-2007 17:52:50  
I seem to be getting double posts lately. TERMINOLOGY. Note that I said ACRYLIC enamel. ALKYD enamel and synthetic enamel are the same. Acrylic is much better.



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CNKS

01-03-2007 17:51:49




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to JaredM, 01-03-2007 14:39:36  
Buy acrylic enamel from a reputable company such as PPG or DuPont, in the Omni or Nason lines. Sherwin Williams or NAPA will also have it. Stay away from the old technology synthetic enamels from JD and TSC. It will probably cost you about $60 a gallon, maybe a little more. 2X and 3X more than Deere or TSC, but worth it for the durability and fade resistance. There is little advantage to clear coating single stage paint. Don't use hardener, reading between the lines of your post, you do not have the proper protective equipment, i.e. supplied air.

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JaredM

01-04-2007 04:24:41




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to CNKS, 01-03-2007 17:51:49  
Thanks, we will be using a compressor and paint guns. What would the hardner mix be or is it worth it. Also any recommendation on a primer or just something cheap. Thanks. JaredM



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CNKS

01-04-2007 09:07:07




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 Re: Painting a work tractor in reply to JaredM, 01-04-2007 04:24:41  
The link gives EXACT instructions for the preparation for and the use of PPG Omni acrylic enamel. It also lists the underlying primers. Other major brands are similar. The primer used on the whole tractor is MP 170 epoxy primer, you might want to put a sandable primer surfacer over the epoxy, MP181, on the sheet metal if you want a smooth finish. Hardener has advantages of a more durable, glossier finish. You can also repair drips and runs the next day. But, I will not recommend it unless you use a supplied air system, which costs far more than the paint. One tractor, no. Several, no question that hardener should be used.

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