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Bruce(OR)

04-19-2007 01:27:40




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This amatuer reading the board and picked up quite a few tips and I thank you! I am now in search of an opinion regarding hardener. The tractor in question will be a user and not a trailer queen. Does hardened paint chip off easier? I was going to use AGCO Flint Metallic Gray, but the rattle can sample came out looking like silver. I am still in search of a production can of darker gray metallic paint. Hopefully at less than a custom blend quart can of paint at around $170.00 with hardeners and reducers, catalyst and what not...
This is for a Fergy tractor that the wife wants to paint red. She will get red sheetmetal after the rest is the gray I want.
Thanks for the help!
Bruce(OR)

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CNKS

04-19-2007 19:13:36




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 Re: To harden or not... in reply to Bruce(OR), 04-19-2007 01:27:40  
All paint chips. Hardener brings out gloss and also lets you make repairs in a day or so if need be. As Jason says, don't use it without a supplied air system.



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Jason(ma)

04-19-2007 14:35:57




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 Re: To harden or not... in reply to Bruce(OR), 04-19-2007 01:27:40  
the use of hardner depends on if you have fresh air face mask or scba, such as the hobbyair system. The hardner contains Isocynates, many many post about the dangers here and else where on the web.

now I feel that a "trailer queen" tractor is the type that doesn't need to have high end paint. It doesn't see the abuse, the cheap stuff holds up fine in under cover. For a machine that is out working I would use a paint such as PPG's omni line. If I am using a fresh air suppy I would go with the ppg omni's urethane. I feel a single urethane paint is the best bang for the buck on tractors. If I didn't have the air supply I would use ppg's omni line Arcylic enamle without the hardner. very good paint and safer to spray. good luck with what ever you decide

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glennster

04-19-2007 12:14:21




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 Re: To harden or not... in reply to Bruce(OR), 04-19-2007 01:27:40  
without getting in depth technical, the hardener makes the paint set up faster and cure quicker. it also makes the paint "harder" so to speak. yup, it will chip if you bash it, but any paint will be damaged from an impact. if its a daily user like you say and your not gonna keep it on a pedestal and not use it, the go with the agco paint or tisco, or even the farm and fleet brand. use the hardener. if you make a mistake, you can re shoot it pretty quick. good surface preparation is 90% of a good paint job and takes the longest. use the primer that the paint recommends.

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Mike M

04-19-2007 06:32:41




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 Re: To harden or not... in reply to Bruce(OR), 04-19-2007 01:27:40  
My experiences with hardener is that it chips alot easier.

There are some high quailty paints at HIGH $$$ that are alot tougher than regular enamal or synthol enamal. Not worth the cost to me.



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Bruce(OR)

04-19-2007 11:02:50




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 Re: To harden or not... in reply to Mike M, 04-19-2007 06:32:41  
So, If hardened paint chips easier then would I be better off with Rustoleum paint? I have rattle canned a few parts and the risistance to chipping is a bit minimal it seems to me.



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circus

04-19-2007 12:15:24




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 Re: To harden or not... in reply to Bruce(OR), 04-19-2007 11:02:50  
think of hardener as a time warp. 4 day old hardened paint equals 6 month old unhardened paint. 5 to 10 coats of spray bomb paint equals 1 coat from a spray gun and 3 gun coats are needed for a good finish. Shop around. There are good quality polyurethane's for much less. Check out the fleet colors. All manufacturers have them.



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