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two cylinders s

05-04-2007 20:07:16




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I Restored a a tractor about 3 years ago used good primer and regular 40 dollar john deere paint and no hardner , its looks just as good as the day i painted it.My question is many on here recommend ppg or higher priced paint, so im kinda confused ? Should i put hardner ? My paint from three 3 ago is fine of course it gets waxed and babied but looks great. I got another project on the way styled b im heading toward painting it the same way i dont see what im doing wrong ?lol

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B-maniac

05-12-2007 06:20:23




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 Re: JOHN DEERE PAINT in reply to two cylinders saves gas , 05-04-2007 20:07:16  
Sun , rain , heat , cold , gas spills , bird crap and other contamination and/or abuse are what deteriorates paint. High end urethanes hold up well to all of these much better than economy paints. BUT! Sounds like you have eliminated pretty much all of these issues , so keep using what works for you and your situation. If I paint a fender with low end paint and don't even use any primer and the other fender with top of the line products and procedures and keep them both hanging on the wall in my bedroom , in 5 years you won't tell the difference. It's all in what you expect and how you use it .

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Aaron Novak

05-10-2007 07:04:37




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 Re: JOHN DEERE PAINT in reply to two cylinders saves gas , 05-04-2007 20:07:16  
Is the paint your using alkyd or synthetic Enamel? The paints like the Valspar restoration series are actually synthetic enamels with an Isocynate hardener. One thing that should be remembered about Urethenes, if you use them over a 1K primer such as rustoleum gray or red oxide, zinc chromate, or the normal gray automive sanding primer, your inviting filiform corrosionof your base metal in a few years. Honestly in all of our testing for marine paints, its hard to beat Synthetic or alkyd enamel ( with the hardener ) over epoxy primer.

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CNKS

05-05-2007 18:27:44




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 Re: JOHN DEERE PAINT in reply to two cylinders saves gas , 05-04-2007 20:07:16  
Alkyd enamel is fine waxed and kept inside. It was used on cars until probably into the 80's. It just has to be waxed or it will fade. Repeated cleaning and waxing will get it down to the primer, though. With modern finishes (acrylic urethane), waxing is less necessary. If you are satisfied with what you are doing, you don't need to change. I prefer acrylic urethane. As few tractors as I do, the cost is insignificant compared to the other restoration costs. Such as, I just paid $47 for maybe a $20 light switch, because I wanted the original one.

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circus

05-04-2007 20:47:53




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 Re: JOHN DEERE PAINT in reply to two cylinders saves gas , 05-04-2007 20:07:16  
Don't mess with success. Hardener in paint speeds up things. After a couple months the finishes are identical.



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GlenIdaho

05-04-2007 20:44:00




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 Re: JOHN DEERE PAINT in reply to two cylinders saves gas , 05-04-2007 20:07:16  
From what I've learned hardner will cause the paint to cure faster and allow you to repair mistakes sooner. It will also help bring out the shine and make it last a little longer. You should not use it unless you have a supplied air system to protect your lungs. I also read recently that it is drawn to moisture such as mucus membranes and the eyes. Do a search on this site as there has been much discussion about its negative effects on the body.

As far as using it in your paint, it really depends on what your going to do with the tractor. If it's a working tractor a more expensive paint such as PPG's Omni line will hold up well and look good for some time. If you really don't care what your tractor looks like down the road, use a less expensive paint. I suppose it really depends on your pocket book and what makes you happy. That's really the key, what makes you happy! There's some very good advice in the archives from guys that have alot of paint experience. I'm sure you'll hear from some of them. Hope this help.

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two cylinders saves gas

05-04-2007 21:22:41




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 Re: JOHN DEERE PAINT in reply to GlenIdaho, 05-04-2007 20:44:00  
How long do you guys wait before a recoat on regular john deere dealership paint with no hardener ? I would roll my other one out in the sun during the day and that seemed to help bake it on ?Our tractors are stricly show tractors. Ive had many compliments on my paint jobs. Just using the old cheap 40 dollar paint? Maybe my secret could be zymol a great cleaner wax ,not cheap, makes it shine like new. But the dealer paint has been great for me. And safer to spray without hardener ! Anyone else have good results? thks for the help

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GlenIdaho

05-04-2007 20:43:53




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 Re: JOHN DEERE PAINT in reply to two cylinders saves gas , 05-04-2007 20:07:16  
From what I've learned hardner will cause the paint to cure faster and allow you to repair mistakes sooner. It will also help bring out the shine and make it last a little longer. You should not use it unless you have a supplied air system to protect your lungs. I also read recently that it is drawn to moisture such as mucus membranes and the eyes. Do a search on this site as there has been much discussion about its negative effects on the body.

As far as using it in your paint, it really depends on what your going to do with the tractor. If it's a working tractor a more expensive paint such as PPG's Omni line will hold up well and look good for some time. If you really don't care what your tractor looks like down the road, use a less expensive paint. I suppose it really depends on your pocket book and what makes you happy. That's really the key, what makes you happy! There's some very good advice in the archives from guys that have alot of paint experience. I'm sure you'll hear from some of them. Hope this help.

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