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Rod (NH)

06-24-2007 14:59:23




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Epoxy Primer

On this forum I've indicated that epoxy primer (typically PPG OMNI MP170 that I use - more specifically the MP175 catalyst that is required to be added to it) does not contain isocyanates and therefore a supplied-air respiratory system is not necessary. I believed, and have implied, that is also true of other automotive epoxy primers. I have now run across an epoxy primer that does have isocyanates in the required additive (referred to as a "hardener" rather than a catalyst). The tech sheet for that primer is here and the MSDS for the required "hardener" is here.

Conclusion: To be sure about the presence of isocyanates, you must check the manufacturer's specific MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) that applies to each of the mixed products. The isocyanate compounds, if present, will typically show up in the MSDS for the additive, and it may not matter if that additive is referred to as a catalyst, a hardener, an activator or something else. Manufacturers are required by law to identify all hazardous ingredients in their products by the use of MSDS. Employers are also required to make the appropriate MSDS readily available (for free) to all employees who come in contact with products in the workplace. Individuals and DIYs can, and should, make good use of such information since much of it is now available at manufacturer's websites.

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CNKS

06-24-2007 18:33:17




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 Re: Epoxy Primer in reply to Rod (NH), 06-24-2007 14:59:23  
Thanks for the info. I checked the MSDS of both MP 170 and the KEP 505 since they are both called epoxies. The MSDS for the 170 says it contains 10-30% epoxy resin (I suppose that makes it an epoxy), the 505 contains only 4%. Apparantly that is why you can sand it and use it as a "primer surfacer". But, I bet it has only half or less the quality of 170 which I would class as a true epoxy, and also does not have anywhere near the build of a true surfacer -- but I'm no paint chemist. The tech sheet also does not mention bare metal preparation, 170 says no more than 180 grit (likely conservative) but all metals need some prep. Probably works ok though, but unless the old surface is smooth (not likely on tractor sheet metal), there is no such thing as a multipurpose primer. Probably ok over an old finish on a car, though.

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Rod (NH)

06-25-2007 08:54:33




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 Re: Epoxy Primer in reply to CNKS, 06-24-2007 18:33:17  
I think you are right. I wouldn't touch the stuff with a ten foot pole, regardless of price. Just what we all need - still another "house brand" or "private label" of paint. Jeez.



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