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Painting a farmall H

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Dalton S.

07-09-2007 20:33:43




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I am in the process of restoring a Farmall H. At this point I am ready to paint. First off, I would like to know how far I should take the tractor apart. Should I take everything off except for the block and the frame? Do I have to get it down to bare metal before a paint it? What kind of primer should I use? How many coats of paint should I have. What should I use as a hardener or the final coat to protect the paint and make it shiny? Should I use a shiny coat on the cast parts too or just on the sheet metal? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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CNKS

07-10-2007 18:43:54




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 Re: Painting a farmall H in reply to Dalton S., 07-09-2007 20:33:43  
The H is simple to take apart and put back together, there aren't that many parts. I have completely disassembled and repainted a C and Super H. On the other hand I did that with an International 460 and I am never going to disassemble a tractor like that again, it is simply too time consuming, for me anyway. Use the same paint on the whole tractor. Even with the same paint code and the same color, there could be a difference between different types of paint, although it isn't likely. Don't worry about the "high" gloss on the cast. It will not turn out as bright as the sheet metal because of it's rough texture. I pay no attention to the comments that a shiny tractor looks "un-natural". That is merely someones opinion. I do not object to that persons opinion, I simply go for the best job I can do. Use the hardener in all coats, because the cure times of hardened and unhardened are different, and it is possible for the unhardened paint to lift the last hardened coat. Good paint will cover in two coats, I use the third for insurance. An H will take about a gallon, maybe 5 quarts if all parts are painted separately. Remember, that if you use hardener, you need a supplied air system to protect you from the isocyanates in the hardener. It will cost 3-4 times as much as your paint. So, if you only plan to paint one tractor use acrylic enamel (see below for another option) from PPG, DuPont, etc. If you use hardener use acrylic urethane. The "correct" color for your H is IH 50 (DuPont 7410, PPG 70093) if it was made up to about mid 1949, later H's used IH 1102b, I do not know if it can be mixed. "Most" people use IH 2150 (DuPont 96766, PPG 71310). In this case the acrylic modified alkyd enamel sold by your Case-IH dealer is probably sufficient, so I hear, I have not used it. Keep in mind that the dealer 2150 and PPG 71310 have an orange tint to them, you may or may not find that objectionable. I have not used the DuPont version. 2150 did not appear until 1961 with the introduction of the 404/504, etc, but is the only paint available from Case-IH for the older Farmalls. Hardener can be added to it. I strip to bare metal, that is not always a requirement. But, most old tractors will have rust under the paint due to quickee paint jobs in the past. You won't know until you strip it.

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GlenIdaho

07-09-2007 22:10:53




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 Re: Painting a farmall H in reply to Dalton S., 07-09-2007 20:33:43  
Dalton; The term "restoration" means different things to different people. Some would consider it taking everything apart and to bare metal, replating etc. You need to decide what you want. Is it for show, work, what? I have a Ford 850 that I pretty much took to bare metal and yet it's going to be a working tractor, but one that looks nice. Once you decide the purpose of the tractor and how far you want to go, then you can decide what parts to remove. If it's a complete restoration you should take it all apart, clean and inspect each part, repair or replace to original. If the engine needs work, it may be easier to have it split from the tractor. Gnenerally, once all the mechanical work is done then it's time to prep for paint. That will be 90% of the paint job to do it right. The running gear should be assembled and then painted, the smaller parts, front axle, wheels, sheet metal etc painted separately off the tractor. You might consider finding an expert on Farmall's that can tell you how the tractor was assembled at the factory. Some assmebly line operations assembled many of the parts on the tractor and then painted. An axpert can tell you how much was assembled and painted. Use his advice as a guideline. He should be able to tell you the paint scheme for your particular tractor.

If the tractor is going to be a working tractor you may not want to take it to bare metal. Power wash to remove all dirt and grease, remove the loose paint, clean with a wax/grease remover and paint. Sheetmetal will take a little more work if there are repairs to be made.

As far as paint is concerned it depends on what you want, what the tractor is for, ie show or work. I've noticed that it appears that a common paint used is an epoxy primer which is designed to go one bare metal or over well prepped old paint, 2 coats is generally sufficient. Followed by an acrylic urethane with hardner; 2 or 3 coats. The spec sheets for the paint will give yoiu some guidance on number of coats. PPG's Omini brand is probably middle of the road in cost. I used it on mine and it is a good paint. You can use cheaper paint or more expensive paint. Again, it's what makes you happy and how much money you want to spend.

Do a search on the Ford Forum archives using the word search "Ford paint codes" then look for the thread "960 Resto updadte Aug 13 and paint codes". Review the info from Brad_bb and go to the link he has posted. It will take you to his photo gallery and show what he did in restoring his 960. He has a lot of good info and has some expertise in restoration work. Hope this helps you out.

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