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aw738

08-16-2007 11:29:57

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Can I paint the inside of my Farmall A rims and not have the tires/tubes stick to the rim?

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Brad_bb

08-17-2007 11:30:21

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to aw738, 08-16-2007 11:29:57

I don"t use and don"t like POR. I routinely bodywork steel rims just like you would a body part. You remove all traces of rust via sandblasting or chemical stripping, seal the rim in a good Epoxy sealer primer and then bodywork like you would anything else. There are usually pits on the inside of the old rims and I bodywork those smooth so you again will get a good seal whether it"s tubed or tubeless. I paint with Acrylic urethane. As long as you"ve metal prepped correctly and sealed with epoxy, rust will not come back in your lifetime. I don"t know what the addition of Calcium chloride will do. I have never used it and don"t have a need to. Plus if my tractor sits a lot, I don"t want it attacking the rim or anything else or leaking.

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Matt L

08-17-2007 07:36:11

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to aw738, 08-16-2007 11:29:57

I was curious on what was used on the outside of the rim is it galvining or another form of por?

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glennster

08-19-2007 09:01:44

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to Matt L, 08-17-2007 07:36:11

the silver on the outside of the rim is plain ole rustolem, there is a couple shades of silver available, i cut it about 5% with mineral spirits thinner, add the valspar hardener, applied two coates. i baked the rim in our spray booth at the shop, but its not necessary, i was in a hurry to get the tractor up and mowing again. i could have used automotive paint on the outside, but seeing how i'll probably get another flat, its a lot cheaper to use, and easy to touch up.

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Matt L

08-17-2007 00:10:17

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to aw738, 08-16-2007 11:29:57

Whats the paint on the outside of the rim? Is that por too?

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GlenIdaho

08-17-2007 07:12:22

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to Matt L, 08-17-2007 00:10:17

Hi Matt; POR 15 is a rust inhibitor. Using it on the inside of the rim is added protection for your rims, especially if you use calcium chloride which may leak from the tube as it is corrosive. POR 15 is is affected by sunlight and must be top coated where exposed to sunlight. The primer and top coat is of your choice. You must also use a special POR primer(can't recall the name) on the POR 15 so your paint will adhere properly.

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GlenIdaho

08-16-2007 21:14:02

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to aw738, 08-16-2007 11:29:57

I agree with Rod and glennster, POR 15 is the way to go. I've used it and it is tough stuff. In fact I was just talking to the paint shop guy about a primer for my loader, he recommended POR 15 because it's so tough.

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iowa_tire_guy

08-16-2007 20:31:13

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to aw738, 08-16-2007 11:29:57

At times I have been doing rear tires on the farm and the farmer will want to prime and/or paint the inside using a rattle can. Well there are only so many things I can do to kill time waiting for the paint to dry and they usually don't want to pay me to come out again the next day. So in these cases they are just wanting to preserve the rim and not interested in appearances. I then take the baby powder that I keep along and dust the sticky painted rim and put the tire and tube on.

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Rod (NH)

08-16-2007 15:42:34

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to aw738, 08-16-2007 11:29:57

Sure you can. In the past, I've usually sandblasted and epoxy-primed the insides of rims. I'll agree with glennster on the POR15 though. I started using it last year for the inside of rims and have been very impressed with it.

I have never brushed a paint that flowed out as well as POR15. It's indeed very hard and slick. After initially seating the beads on a 16.9x26 tractor rear (lightly lubricated beads), as soon as I let the air out to re-air to the proper pressure, both beads slipped completely back and had to be reseated again. That's not a problem but I never observed that happening before. I have not had any problem with the tire slipping around on the rim, even during hard use while spinning (with chains) in packed gravel or turf. The issue many may be unaware of is that it's a moisture-cured urethane product. As such, it has isocyanates in it even though it is not a two-part paint. Also, if there is even a small remnant of paint in the rim contact area of the cover, you'll have to destroy the can to get it apart next time. Following all the instructions with this stuff is extremely important.

Rod

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glennster

08-16-2007 12:25:51

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to aw738, 08-16-2007 11:29:57

lately i have been using a product called por 15. it is a rust conversion type primer. here is a farmall cub rim i did not long ago. this stuff dries and its tough as nails, and slicker than owl poop!. you can get it thru napa. wear gloves, if you get it on your hands and it dries, it dont come off.

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Rexalot

08-20-2007 07:25:16

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to glennster, 08-16-2007 12:25:51

What silver paint are you using on your rims? I'd like to repaint the rims on my "H". I used "med silver" but it's darker than what I perceived the original color should be for that galvanized look.

I was thinking an argent silver, but I haven't been able to find some in the spray can yet. (I may just have the local napa mix me a quart.)

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glennster

08-20-2007 08:53:48

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to Rexalot, 08-20-2007 07:25:16

rustolem aluminum is the paint and color i used, see post above, sprayed with valspar hardener. looks pretty close to the color of the plated rim.

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Rexalot

08-21-2007 08:53:28

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Re: Painting inside of rim in reply to glennster, 08-20-2007 08:53:48

I was eyballing the Rustoleum silver in the quart can when I was looking for an alternative paint. I just thought it would've been to bright.

I origanally tried using the WalMart Aluminum, as I had an old can that I painted one rim with and it came out looking like "dull" aluminum and a VERY good match. Unfortunatly I ran out and the new cans I purchased looked like cheap chrome. Very bright and shiny.

I may give the rustoleum a try unless I find argent wheel silver first.

Thanks.

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