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International 8-16 Paint Codes

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Walter G.

08-16-2007 17:23:25




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I am restoring a 1922 International Model 8-16. It was repainted an incorrect colour 25 years ago. Very small unpainted spots show a Gray with a blue-green tinge. Contributors to this site have suggested Dupont 98620 or 6923 and PPG 30074 as the correct light gray. None of these codes are available from Dupont or PPG dealers that I have contacted. Are there other codes for the light gray? Is my only option the dark gray...Dupont 27625? Thanks for any help Walt

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jason(ma)

08-21-2007 16:40:47




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 Re: International 8-16 Paint Codes in reply to Walter G., 08-16-2007 17:23:25  
okay I just took a look through some other info I have. Dupont's info list a color of 98626 D for IHC 8021 used on the grey on IHC titan 10-20. Your post talks of a 98620 not being available. That 98620 is listed in dupont's info as being for F20-Reg. Is there enough of a old color spot for your jobber to scan for a match?



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Walter G.

08-20-2007 16:12:27




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 Re: International 8-16 Paint Codes in reply to Walter G., 08-16-2007 17:23:25  
Daniel H Have you had any dealings with the organization you suggested (McCormickdeering.com). They have not responded to my e-mail sent last week.

Jason(MA) The link from Rod(NH) did not come thr' ...could you try again.

I am still looking for a colour code for the lighter grey. I will try a post on the IH-Farmall forum Thanks Walt



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Rod (NH)

08-21-2007 15:57:09




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 Re: International 8-16 Paint Codes in reply to Walter G., 08-20-2007 16:12:27  
Hi Walter,

With Jason's link to the list I have, you can see that PPG lists (listed?) the IH light gray as 30074. I have an older DuPont-to-PPG cross reference where DuPont 98620 does not cross to PPG 30074 but rather to PPG 30045. Both DuPont 98620 and PPG 30045 cross to Martin-Senour (NAPA) 10391 as you can see here and here. There is no cross to Martin-Senour from PPG 30074.

You might want to try your local NAPA store for the 10391. You might also want to verify with your PPG dealer that the 30074 is no longer available in the OMNI line. If your dealer doesn't stock OMNI, he may not be able to mix the color in the premium automotive lines since some of the old tractor colors were never carried forward into the premium product lines. So double check specifically for OMNI.

When all is said and done, you may have to go to the extent of actually purchasing a small quantity of a promising code and verify it with your existing sample spots before purchasing the whole amount. Some trial and error work like that is not uncommon in trying to match up old tractor colors. In the end, you may be able to only get close, no matter what you do.

Another possibility is DuPont's array of Spectramaster colors. That is a rainbow of many generic colors across the entire color spectrum that should be available in most DuPont chemistries. Ask your DuPont dealer to see his Spectramaster color chips. You might be able to get close that way. That's the only way I can get close to the early AC persian orange with DuPont, despite old DuPont codes - only one of the Spectramaster generic oranges comes close to a match.

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Walter G.

08-21-2007 19:29:48




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 Re: International 8-16 Paint Codes in reply to Rod (NH), 08-21-2007 15:57:09  
Thanks guys for your help and suggestions. I live in Canada and NAPA does not carry paint in their stores here. I have only Dupont & PPG.
My wife who is an artist is trying to duplicate the original colour on a big enough surface that the paint jobbers can scan it. Maybe I'm being too fussy, but the tractor was my grandfather's and I'm trying to put things right.



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jason(ma)

08-21-2007 15:24:59




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 Re: International 8-16 Paint Codes in reply to Walter G., 08-20-2007 16:12:27  
opps sorry



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Jason(ma)

08-20-2007 04:30:53




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 Re: International 8-16 Paint Codes in reply to Walter G., 08-16-2007 17:23:25  
here's my $.02 on the subject. The dark grey dupont 27625 is the modern replacement for farmall grey. I THINK farmall grey was for the farmall line only not the standard line. Here is a link to Rod(NH) ppg list. It also lists 30031 grey but it say's dark next to it. I take it your ppg jobber said that 300074 is not available? I ran into that when I was getting some persian orange in the concept line. They had to call the factory to get the code. Good luck

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Daniel H.

08-16-2007 18:53:10




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 Re: International 8-16 Paint Codes in reply to Walter G., 08-16-2007 17:23:25  
Check this out:

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Jason(ma)

08-20-2007 04:22:39




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 Re: International 8-16 Paint Codes in reply to Daniel H., 08-16-2007 18:53:10  
that link has been around for a while now. Has anyone bought any of the stuff???



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Daniel H.

08-16-2007 18:55:00




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 Re: International 8-16 Paint Codes in reply to Daniel H., 08-16-2007 18:53:10  
The code information is on this page:

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Farmallgray

08-19-2007 11:12:21




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 Re: International 8-16 Paint Codes in reply to Daniel H., 08-16-2007 18:55:00  
I notice they don't have the price of the formula. I wonder what the "nominal fee" is. Maybe they are afraid too many people will get sticker shock.



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