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JimK

09-09-2007 06:54:45




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I"m doing my first tractor restoration (49 Case VAC) and was wondering what paint manufacturer"s people would recommend.

I hear some of the paints you might get at like reatil stores "pink" out after awhile.

I see they sell TISCO here at YT. How is that vs some others?

thanks ...




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Johnsdeere

10-15-2007 20:20:10




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 Re: recommended paint manufacturers in reply to JimK, 09-09-2007 06:54:45  
Another brand not mentioned is Akzo Nobel, the worlds largest pait company. You might better know them by what they make, Sikkens, Lesonal, and U-Tech. U-Tech is their commercial brand and has base coats and single stages. You would not believe the quality and coverage of this product for the price. Their 3.5 Polyurethane covers in 1.5 coats, same in their Poly Base plus base coat. They also have a complete line of primers, sealers, and clears. Alot of fire trucks, Semis and dump trucks are painted in U-Tech at the factory. I personaly use U-Tech on my projects as they have primers from $20 a qt and up. Akzo Noble is very commen in many areas. Here is their web site with Tech Sheets and Tech line numbers. www.akzonobelcarrefinishes.net

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Bob with a 60

09-11-2007 08:45:41




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 Re: recommended paint manufacturers in reply to JimK, 09-09-2007 06:54:45  
Jim Try www.equipmentcolor.com. They have paints available online



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Rod (NH)

09-09-2007 19:30:37




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 Re: recommended paint manufacturers in reply to JimK, 09-09-2007 06:54:45  
Hi Jim,

The chemistry of the paint is far more important than the manufacturer or brand. Most of the "tractor store" paints of any brand are old alkyd enamels as CNKS indicates. They are inexpensive and do a decent job of protecting the metal but are notorious for fading if exposed to much sunlight. Red can indeed turn to pink. It's not only tractor store paints either, but also hardware store and home center brands. You normally won't get into better quality chemistry (despite the claims on labels) until you get into the automotive or industrial/commercial lines of the major paint manufacturers, some of whom CNKS has noted. My suggestion would first be to search out which major manufacturer(s) have a dealers (also called jobbers) reasonably close to you. If your have a NAPA store near, most likely they would be be a source for Martin Senour (MS) automotive paints. Any of the major automotive paint manufacturers (including MS) will have websites where you can research the different chemistries and products available and obtain detailed usage instructions (technical data sheets) before any purchase. Those websites will also generally have a dealer locator function where you can search for one near you. I wouldn't count on anything being available on line. Most of the mixed paints will not be. You might also ask at any autobody shops near you what brand(s) they use and where they get them. They will generally get them from some local independent dealer that stocks at least one major brand of paints.

My own personal opinion on paint quality vs chemistry is as follows for commonly available basic chemistries - in increasing order of quality and durability:

1. Alkyd enamel
2. Acrylic-modified alkyd enamel
3. Acrylic enamel
4. Acrylic enamel with hardener
5. Acrylic urethane
6. Polyurethane

In general, the cost also increases from 1-6. There is some overlap however, especially when you get into similar chemistries in a manufacturer's "economy" line of paints as compared with their "premium" lines. Categories 4-6 will require additives that contain isocyanates. Those are hazardous compounds that require extra care and equipment in usage - especially in the area of respiratory protection. Lots of important considerations (and probably compromises) in selecting a paint for a project - quality/durability (chemistry), availability, cost, personal safety, application details and equipment available. I don't consider brand to be a significant one of them.

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PhilC

09-09-2007 16:59:08




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 Re: recommended paint manufacturers in reply to JimK, 09-09-2007 06:54:45  

JimK said: does anyone know where I can buy these online, or what retailers might carry them?


I don't know about online sources (though I'm sure there are), but your local auto paint supply store should have what you need.third party image

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CNKS

09-09-2007 16:04:35




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 Re: recommended paint manufacturers in reply to JimK, 09-09-2007 06:54:45  
PPG, DuPont, Sherwin Williams/Martin Senour/NAPA. Expensive -- yes. This site sells 30's technology alkyd enamel.



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JimK

09-09-2007 16:27:02




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 Re: recommended paint manufacturers in reply to CNKS, 09-09-2007 16:04:35  
does anyone know where I can buy these online, or what retailers might carry them?



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CNKS

09-11-2007 17:51:01




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 Re: recommended paint manufacturers in reply to JimK, 09-09-2007 16:27:02  
Any cost advantage online is likely negated by shipping. Check your local automotive stores, not Advance Auto/Auto Zone, etc, as they probably won't have it. More likely a long-time independent dealer. Or, call a local bodyshop and ask where they get their paint -- you will have more luck with smaller ones as the large shops generally mix their own.



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