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What Grit Sandpaper after Priming?

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Mr. J

05-27-2002 20:39:07




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Hello all,

Just a question, I've had to do a little bodywork to my 1939 M, took out dents, filled in cracks and scratches, some bondo, etc... all the sheetmetal parts are covered in primer now and I've been doing some wet sanding with 400 grit sandpaper to make the primed surface real smooth. Here's my question, what grit of sandpaper will I have to use on the primed surface before I paint the tractor? Or would the 400 grit suffice? Just curious and thanks to anyone who contributes.

ps. I used oven cleaner on my tractor to remove paint and grease.....that stuff worked awesome.....and $1.00 a can at dollar general....what a bargain...

Thanks,

Jared Jeffries

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Mike S

05-30-2002 20:29:33




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 Re: What Grit Sandpaper after Priming? in reply to Mr. J, 05-27-2002 20:39:07  
I used 320 wet sand paper and the sand scratches came through. I was useing lacqure primer with caseIH enamel.



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Rod (NH)

05-29-2002 07:24:42




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 Re: What Grit Sandpaper after Priming? in reply to Mr. J, 05-27-2002 20:39:07  
Your 400 grit should be fine, assuming your topcoat will be an enamel or a urethane. PPG recommends 400 grit for prep of primer prior to topcoating with their OMNI line of enamels and urethanes. Like Truck says though, I tend to go a little coarser and use 320 more than 400. I wouldn't recommend going higher than 400 for that purpose...it would be unnecessary IMO.



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Truck

05-29-2002 06:15:35




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 Re: What Grit Sandpaper after Priming? in reply to Mr. J, 05-27-2002 20:39:07  
I know I'll probably get some flack for this, but if you are using straight enamel, anything higher than 180 grit by machine ( orbital, DA sander) is a waste of time. 1500 grit would be fine for a spot repair in lacquer, but is also way overkill as a pre paint sanding step for an overall job. We'd not go higher than 320 or 400 for any overall paint job. Spot repairs in lacquer, which is pretty much a thing of the past now anyhow, would be done with 600, and the entire panel would be compounded before the paint was shot on. CHeck with your paint supplier for his opinion on the correct grits and techniques for the paint you're using.
This was the most common mistake of the students in my auto body class..choosing way too high a grit. Sometimes it bordered on the rediculous, with guys sanding bondo with 600 grit...;-).This way it looked like they were working real hard and they'd get nothing done..... ..

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Lucas

05-29-2002 06:20:13




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 Re: Re: What Grit Sandpaper after Priming? in reply to Truck, 05-29-2002 06:15:35  
So I should use no higher than 600 for enamel?



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Truck

05-29-2002 09:07:13




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 Re: Re: Re: What Grit Sandpaper after Priming? in reply to Lucas, 05-29-2002 06:20:13  
All depends on how you're sanding.. If you are hand sanding definitely 600 would be my limit, although I'd still probably go no higher than 320 or 400 myself. You can go much coarser with a machine that has an orbital action, but you have to hold it flat to your surface or you'll do more damage than good. Straight enamel- 150 -220 by machine final sand
Acrylic enamel 320 by machine, 400 wet by hand..

Color sanding is where one would normally use the higher grits, starting off at 600 and going up to the 1200-1500 grits before compounding with hand or a buffer. Of course, follow paint maker recommendations as some paints are not meant to be color sanded and polished out.

And, if you are using a laquer based spray can primer for your project and wet sanding it, you are actually going to cause rust to form under the paint, unless there is something like an epoxy or urethane primer to block the water. Lacquer primer is like a sponge to water and solvents....

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Lucas

05-28-2002 20:15:26




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 Re: What Grit Sandpaper after Priming? in reply to Mr. J, 05-27-2002 20:39:07  
I use 320, then 400, 600, and then 1500 on the small parts.



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Mr. J

05-28-2002 20:47:22




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 Re: Re: What Grit Sandpaper after Priming? in reply to Lucas, 05-28-2002 20:15:26  
Lucas,

So do you paint the surface after you have sanded with 1500 grit? I'm curious how much of a scratch I need to have in the primer for the paint to adhere. Thanks for the reply.

Jared Jeffries



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Lucas

05-29-2002 04:50:42




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 Re: Re: Re: What Grit Sandpaper after Priming? in reply to Mr. J, 05-28-2002 20:47:22  
I prime after I use the 320 then I plan to paint after I use the 1500. I haven't tried painting it yet. I don't see why it won't work.



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