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Syn. enamel question?

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two cylinders s

10-06-2007 14:08:09




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Ive got many coats of se paint on my hood and grill after many problems with runs and orange peel as you all know its a battle bettween getting it thin enough to get a shine and getting it on think enough without getting any runs. Well i bought some hardner to see if it will help and yes i know the dangers involved with its use . Am i going to have any problems with paint separation bettween the non hardner and new hardner coats? I sand bettween all coats.

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B-maniac

10-21-2007 07:19:57




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 Re: Syn. enamel question? in reply to two cylinders saves gas, 10-06-2007 14:08:09  
In answer to your real question "would hardner help"? Hardner is NOT a dryer. It is a "curing" agent and I personally have never seen it change the actual application properties of paint. NO it won't help with the problems you are having. Practice and maybe some "hands on" coaching from an expert in your area will get what you are after. A self taught painter will usually have an unhappy customer.

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two cylinders saves gas

10-06-2007 14:13:07




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 Re: Syn. enamel question? in reply to two cylinders saves gas, 10-06-2007 14:08:09  
Also what is the best way to buff out minor errors on se or is it even possibly also i would like some direction in who makes the best buffers ,polishers ?



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two cylinders saves gas

10-06-2007 16:55:02




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 Re: Syn. enamel question? in reply to two cylinders saves gas, 10-06-2007 14:13:07  
Nevermind found a post that says to use hardner in every coat . Guess im stuck with no hardner .



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B-maniac

10-08-2007 18:02:47




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 Re: Syn. enamel question? in reply to two cylinders saves gas, 10-06-2007 16:55:02  
If you are not useing hardners then I would forget about the sand and buff thing. It would be quicker and better to sand smooth and repaint until you get it right. As I have said many times before ,though , it sure would make more sense to do all this practicing on some scrap sheet metal parts from an old car or something instead of your project tractor.



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rustyj

11-16-2007 16:39:45




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 Re: Syn. enamel question? in reply to B-maniac, 10-08-2007 18:02:47  
Many years ago, was given the job of being the main painter in the auto body shop where i worked! The guy who's place i took finally let "John Barleycorn" ruin his life, and he never came back to work one day! And of course we had a shop full of work, being the shop did mainly all over refinish jobs in baked synthetic enamel! Being that i had sprayed Laquer paints and knew the methods of getting the best and smoothest finishes, i fit right in with the enamel! And, the best advice i got from enamel painters was this: Don't let it scare you, take care reducing the mix, make sure everything is prepared right--and you won't have any trouble! Oh, yeah?!? Yep--the first overall job was a '50 Ford sedan, in the bronze color--a bigge to paint---and it came out ok! So, my advice to you is this: Practice on some old hoods and fenders. Take your time, prepare it right for painting, paint vertical and flat. Then after you think you have it figured out, try something for your machine. Spray a light coat first. Check it for "sticky" by touching it with a knuckle lightly. If it is sticky, then do another coat, a bit heavier than the first, let that set up, and do the final coat-s for gloss. Watch the over-laps, and inside corners. And, if painting a vertical surface--start at the bottom and spray up in horizontal overlapping coats, after the first light sticking coat. Having the paint too thin, or too thick, will cause problems. This is where you must practice on something other than the tractor. A paint Rep. asked me one day how i measured the amount of thinner or reducer i poured into the paint, when i was getting it ready to apply. I told him--when it looks good, running off the stir stick, thats when i apply it! Now adays they insist on you reducing the paints as per the instructions on the can, so thats how to do it. With synthetic enamel, or the acrylic enamels, they weren't as particular as to how we reduced those paints, but the new stuff? Well, i got out because it messed up my breathing. Good luck--practice and get a better refinish job. Rustyj

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