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Small primered parts - coating until I paint?

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Scott Rukke

12-24-2007 14:20:47




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I have cleaned and primered several small engine and other misc. parts. I may not paint until summer. Is there anything I can coat the primered parts with so they won't rust? Also can I use etch primer on my bare engine head or will it burn off?




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CNKS

12-24-2007 17:42:16




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 Re: Small primered parts - coating until I paint? in reply to Scott Rukke, 12-24-2007 14:20:47  
On cast, to be safe, do not use etch primer. Cast is porus, and it could cause damage after you paint. Actually there is no reason to use etch primer on anything but new sheet metal, this is done by body shops who do not want to take the time to sand. Not a good idea to use Picklex 20 or similar products on cast for the same reason, although I have done it with no ill effects. But, I don't do it any more. Best to use epoxy primer--unlike other primers, it is waterproof. Most epoxies have a 3-7 day window before they must be painted. Otherwise, you just scuff with a scotchbrite pad and apply another coat after that time before you topcoat. Epoxy primer adheres as good or better than etch anyway, provided you have prepared the metal. Preparation is done by the blasting, sanding, or wire wheeling that you do anyway, so there is no legitimate reason for etch. If you don't want to use epoxy, just let them set, and remove any rust before you paint. I live in a dry climate, (most of the time), I just leave bare metal inside (sometimes for months)I get very little rust. Those that say you "must" paint the same day as blasting or cleaning are either overreacting or live in a lot more humid climate than I do or cannot protect their parts.

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Scott Rukke

12-24-2007 18:07:04




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 Re: Small primered parts - coating until I paint? in reply to CNKS, 12-24-2007 17:42:16  
I used U-pol high build on some parts and U-pol etch on others. I already used it on some cast parts. Can I apply epoxy over this primer? Am I understanding your response to say that epoxy primer will seal until I paint?



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CNKS

12-24-2007 19:37:59




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 Re: Small primered parts - coating until I paint? in reply to Scott Rukke, 12-24-2007 18:07:04  
I'm not familiar with the products you are using. It is best to stay with one brand of primer and topcoat throughout the process. You need to refer to the spec sheets that should be available for the products you are using and see whether the mfg makes an epoxy and whether it can be used over those products. That said, etch usually needs another primer over it as it is usually not meant to be directly topcoated. And high build primers will usually not bond to bare metal as well as etch or epoxy will. In your case the high build should be applied over the etch. But, you do not need to use, and shouldn't use a high build primer on cast. And, it would be best if epoxy was used over the etch, IF, it is compatible. Someone with more experience than me may answer that question as I have not tried the methods you are using. I am not telling you that what you did will not work, but I, personally, would not use that method. Yes, epoxy will seal until you are ready to paint, and I have heard of cases where it lasted for years without rusting.

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GlenIdaho

12-24-2007 16:06:01




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 Re: Small primered parts - coating until I paint? in reply to Scott Rukke, 12-24-2007 14:20:47  
Hello Scott;

You need to say what type of primer you used, any metal prep you did and where you are going to store the parts.

With that said, a sealer or top coat is the only thing I know of to prevent rust. If inside and kept dry, and if all the rust was removed before primer you probably won't have a problem. There are products such as Picklex 20 that is applied to the metal before primer that will prevent rust. Some of the experts may know of something.
Have a Merry Christmas.

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