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jr356

04-19-2008 13:54:52




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The label on my quart can of MH168 hardener says use entire contents of can within 14 days of opening can.

What are consequences of violating this rule?

I am fortunate when time is available to use a 1/4 of the can within two weeks.
Jim




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jr356

04-19-2008 18:39:08




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 Re: hardener shelf life in reply to jr356, 04-19-2008 13:54:52  
Thanks Rod and CKNS, I'm in a better mood now! Good thought on refridgeration, ought to slow any decomposition that may occur.
Jim



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CNKS

04-19-2008 18:02:16




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 Re: hardener shelf life in reply to jr356, 04-19-2008 13:54:52  
What Rod says, although I have not used hardener as old as Rod has. You can also refrigerate it, and there is a product called Bloxygen, an inert gas in a spray can that I use. Not necessarily made for hardeners, but is recommended to keep opened paint from forming a film over the top. Not sure how it works, apparantly forces the air out and replaces it with the gas. You squirt it in and immediately replace the lid. I have also read that certain welding gases can be used. The only way to prove all this is to have a treated and untreated can used on the same day under the same conditions--I'm not going to do that. I don't know how fast it degrades, I use Bloxygen and have a small refrigerator, have had no problems.

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Mark Doud

04-21-2008 08:48:40




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 Re: hardener shelf life in reply to CNKS, 04-19-2008 18:02:16  
I think Argon is what is in Bloxygen. Since its heavier than air it will fill the can up and displace all the air. Some fancy grocery stores or places that carry wine may also sell small cans of argon for displacing air in partially full wine bottles.



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CNKS

04-21-2008 17:13:04




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 Re: hardener shelf life in reply to Mark Doud, 04-21-2008 08:48:40  
Sounds logical.



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Rod (NH)

04-19-2008 14:49:36




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 Re: hardener shelf life in reply to jr356, 04-19-2008 13:54:52  
Hi Jim,

Well, I've used MH168 that has been opened and partially used two years prior without any obvious consequences. I'm not recommending that - just saying I've done it, apparently successfully, on more than one occasion and not only with the MH168, but also with a similar DuPont hardener. I wouldn't do that if I was painting for someone else but since I only paint for myself, I am usually willing to take the risk that there might be a problem. Hardeners are expensive and my work flow doesn't lend itself to using a full can in 14 days, which is a typical time period for most hardeners. Before using previously opened hardeners, I inspect the product for any signs of jelling and for clarity. If all appears well, I'll use it, even if way beyond the 14 days, fully knowing the risk is mine. I have not had a problem doing this for the last 10 years or so. As they say, your mileage may vary. It's your risk if you don't follow the manufacturer's recommendations.

Rod

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