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Cliff Neubauer

10-10-2001 07:25:41




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I think we need to start this great new board with a safety warning about using paints. Most paints by themselves aren't very dangerous to breathe but almost all hardners contain isocyanate polymers which are very toxic and cause perminate lung damage. If you read the label on most cans of hardner it will say "use a supplied air mask" or something like that. Hardner is a critical part of most paint lines but most paint stores will not tell you about the dangers of using it. I don't want to scare you away from using it either but I felt I need to let you know you need proper protection to use them. Some people say that charcol canaster masks will safely filter the iso's out but finding that in writing is almost impossible. I have a Hobby air that costs $360 and supplies me with fresh air when painting, it's alot of money but not when you consider that it could save your life. I bought my Hobby air from the site below.

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Bill in Ontario

10-10-2001 19:02:03




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 Re: Be careful painting in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 10-10-2001 07:25:41  
Thankyou gentlemen! I'm not set up to do any serious painting. If I do decide to go the Imron route, I'll likely at least price the job at a local paint shop. I had no idea the stuff was so toxic. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the heads up responses. Safety first, of course. Thanks again!!



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dennis

10-11-2001 11:03:42




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 Re: Re: Be careful painting in reply to Bill in Ontario, 10-10-2001 19:02:03  
just starting 39 B is red but has a few rust spots. how about a step by step . i have no idea what i am doing!!!!! !!



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Clooney

10-10-2001 07:49:40




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 Re: Be careful painting in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 10-10-2001 07:25:41  
Cliff, that is a very good point, I wouldn't even think of using a 2 part paint or hardner without my fresh air system.



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Rusty Jones

11-25-2001 18:27:40




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 Re: Re: Be careful painting in reply to Clooney, 10-10-2001 07:49:40  
I Had to retire from auto painting when the isocyanates started to affect my breathing, while the paint was drying! I used an air-supply mask to apply the paint, but our paint booth leaked the fumes out. The air supply system came with an air mask, 30 ft. of light air supply hose, and a small oilless compressor. I put the air compressor up at the window level, with an opening for fresh air from outside. Only trouble with the system was, the electrical system in the 85 year old bldg. failed me when anyone plugged in anything else electric, and that made the air comp. stop. When it worked it was o.k. You could buy the compressor from Sears, get some new air line, and run a separate, light, hose to the mask from the oilless comp. Put the comp. outside, away from the painting place, and it will do alright. Use a new or clean rubber air mask. plug up the holes where the filters fit on, and in one of them, fit in a connection to the air line. use a light airline, and put a loop hanger to hang on your shoulder to support the airline, so it doesn't pull off the mask when you move around. Yours: Rusty Jones Maybe, to cut cost, you can use a so-called diaphragm compressor. some times they are sitting around someones garage, not being used any more! If you buy a commercial one, it'll cost big money, so look around.

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