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David

11-21-2002 21:12:41




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I am about to paint My Farmall M. The tractor is not particularly rusty but it has been painted at least three times. It has two sets of decals on the hood and some of the paint even looks to be done with a brush. As far as surface prep goes. Does all of this need to come off to get a good base to work with or can I spray on a thick coat of primer and sand it smooth?




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Dennis Benson

12-04-2002 17:46:16




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 Re: Paint Prep in reply to David, 11-21-2002 21:12:41  
I agree wit hte others, sandblast it all off. You might get by with leaving some original paint that seems well attached, and removing all the rust, but if it's going ok, remove it all. I think it will be easier to remove all the paint, and besides you wou't have your new decals put on with several other layers of decals showing under them with a new paint job.



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Cliff Neubauer

11-24-2002 06:30:17




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 Re: Paint Prep in reply to David, 11-21-2002 21:12:41  
I would strip it to bare metal. You might get by with just sanding it smooth but then you will be gambling on whether or not your new paint job will last. Also it is usually easier to strip to bare metal than to try and smooth out that much old paint.



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Todd in IL

11-22-2002 09:58:00




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 Re: Paint Prep in reply to David, 11-21-2002 21:12:41  
well technically you should at least sand it smooth if you want it to look like you care.

I know its hard to sand an entire tractor but the more you put in the more you get out.



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Todd in IL

11-22-2002 09:55:00




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 Re: Paint Prep in reply to David, 11-21-2002 21:12:41  
well technically you should at least sand it smooth if you want it to look like you care.

I know its hard to sand an entire tractor but the more you put in the more you get out.



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Rod (NH)

11-21-2002 21:44:07




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 Re: Paint Prep in reply to David, 11-21-2002 21:12:41  
Hi David,

My tendency would be to remove it all. This would give you the best base for your new paint. If it was only one coat of orginal paint that was truly sound, that would be different. Where you know it has been painted several times before, you cannot be sure the previous owner(s) took the proper preparation steps to assure a good, long lasting finish. I recommend you plan on removing it and starting over. That would be the best way to proceed, IMO.

Rod

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showcrop

11-22-2002 14:46:18




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 Re: Re: Paint Prep in reply to Rod (NH), 11-21-2002 21:44:07  
I repainted a Ford that came out very good but by the time I finished I had decided that next time I would take it to the industrial sandblaster down the road with the sheet metal off it. they can get all the paint off in about an hour.



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David Maddux

12-13-2002 18:38:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Paint Prep in reply to showcrop, 11-22-2002 14:46:18  
I have not used it as of yet but I understand that Sherwin-Williams has a stripper that can be sprayed with an airless sprayer. For multiple coats of paint this just might be the answer. The way I look at is, we are painting a tractor and it is made of metal, right? It is not made of a soft or brittle substrate. So an old unstable surface (like 3coats of paint) is a contaminant, right? So we need to get it down to a good stable surface. The best job we can do will be our reward years down the road. Dave.

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David Maddux

12-13-2002 18:34:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Paint Prep in reply to showcrop, 11-22-2002 14:46:18  
I have not used it as of yet but I understand that Sherwin-Williams has a stripper that can be sprayed with an airless sprayer. For multiple coats of paint this just might be the answer. The way I look at is, we are painting a tractor and it is made of metal, right? It is not made of a soft or brittle substrate. So an old unstable surface (like 3coats of paint) is a contaminant, right? So we need to get it down to a good stable surface. The best job we can do will be our reward years down the road. Dave.

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