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Tom

06-01-2003 16:31:49




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I am a rookie at this .I now need to get geared up with a paint gun and respirator . There is a one ton truck to paint and tractors as I get the restoreation done. Catalogs I get in the mail have these items .What are the best for priming and finish coats? A)Combo , by Sharpe. One gun is a T-1 -titanium 1.3 mm HVLP and the other is a Cobalt ,1.5mm B)Binks M1-G HVLP 1.4 mm C)Devilbiss GFG-670 wit 1.2,1.3,1.4 mm

The next question is a respirator. The problem I have is a beard. So i was thinking of an Air System with a hood. This one would hook up to my compressor and air is fed into the hood. Do they work ? I am spraying enamels with hardener. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Tom

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Rod (NH)

06-02-2003 21:35:17




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 Re: Need help with painting products in reply to Tom, 06-01-2003 16:31:49  
Hi Tom,

I'll give you my own thoughts on the respirator. Since you have a beard you should not consider any type of negative pressure, cartridge type of respirator even if you didn't use hardeners...you will never be able to get a proper fit. You are correct in thinking about a fresh air system. You are not limited to just a hood though. The key is to always maintain a positive pressure inside the facepiece or hood, even when inhaling. If your air supply is sufficient (4 cfm for a facepiece or 6 cfm for a hood) to do this, the tightness of the seal is less important since there will always be an outflow of air. I too have a beard and use a full facepiece. I always assure myself of a positive pressure when inhaling. It's easy to do. Just check the exhaust port for an outflow of air at the same time that you take a fairly rapid, deep breath. You'll notice a significant decrease in outflow when you breathe in but as long as there is still an outflow you can be assured of maintaining a positive pressure and your face seal need not be perfect.

I would not recommend using your standard compressor as the source of your breathing air. Capacity could be a problem and if it is a lubricated machine, you will notice an unpleasant (and unhealthy) "aftertaste" to the air. There is also the potential, although remote, of CO poisoning. Your air supply should be from a non-lubricated unit that has an inlet where the air is known to be fresh and uncontaminated. This means a significant distance away from your spray area, preferably with physical barriers such as walls or buildings between you and the air intake. It should also preferably be a tankless unit so that the possibility of any nasty microbes that could exist in a moist, closed tank atmosphere would not be fed to the mask (and to your lungs). Lubricated compressors are, indeed, sometimes used for breathing air but complex and expensive air purification & monitoring systems are then called for. This is generally not realistic for the DIY home user to either purchase or to maintain. Alternatively, you could go with a dedicated blower unit as CNKS indicates. The Hobbyair is a relatively inexpensive commercial system (about $400) that uses such a blower (turbine).

Caveat: Above is from my own personal, non-medical experience. It would ONLY be appropriate for a personal use where no laws, contracts or regulatory requirements exist, such as labor contracts, OSHA rules, etc., etc. Use at your own risk :o).

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Tom

06-03-2003 13:07:03




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 Re: Re: Need help with painting products in reply to Rod (NH), 06-02-2003 21:35:17  
Thank you for the great info. Rod I am in NH also.



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CNKS

06-02-2003 18:33:09




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 Re: Need help with painting products in reply to Tom, 06-01-2003 16:31:49  
The Cobalt is usually thought as a primer gun, I have one. I have not used the titanium, think it is one step below the Platinum, which is an excellent gun. The guns you named are major brands, probably no problem with any of them, just be sure to get the right tips -- My platinum has a 1.5, cobalt 1.7 -- these numbers are not etched in stone -- go by the manufactuers recommendation for the paint you are using. Supplied air systems usually don't use air compressor air, but have a separate blower unit. Also, where is your compressor, if it's in the same room you paint in all you will get is fumes. The intake should be put outside or somewhere away from the fumes. Yes, they work fine.

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Tom

06-03-2003 13:12:07




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 Re: Re: Need help with painting products in reply to CNKS, 06-02-2003 18:33:09  
Thank you for the help. The hard part is spending money on a product you know nothing about.



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sammy the RED

06-01-2003 19:06:26




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 Re: Need help with painting products in reply to Tom, 06-01-2003 16:31:49  
The Binks is a better gun than the Cobalt.
The other 2 I have no experience with.



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