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What heater to use in shop when I paint?

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Bob G

11-13-2003 11:20:19




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I am going to paint my son's 72 Ford F110 this winter. I currently have a fuel oil heater in it. I've been told that I can't use it while painting because of the fumes igniting. What I plan to due is heat the garage to the temp I need and then shut the oil heater off and prime/paint. The question is can I use an electric heater to heat the room while I am painting or is there a chance of fumes igniting also.

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Bob

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Bill

11-15-2003 09:38:47




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 Re: What heater to use in shop when I paint? in reply to Bob G, 11-13-2003 11:20:19  
What you want to consider other then the heater is if your compressor is in the painting area there will be sparks from the pressure switch and the switch inside the motor when it comes out of the start windings. If you don't have a mercury thermostat for your furnace there will be sparks accross the contacts of the thermostat. A light switch has sparks when turned off or on. If you are using a torpedo heater the bi products of combustion, some unburnt oil, will be in the air and settle on your paint. Have good ventilation and nothing generating sparks or flame in the same area.

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Rusty Jones

11-13-2003 16:14:01




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 Re: What heater to use in shop when I paint? in reply to Bob G, 11-13-2003 11:20:19  
HOLD EVERYTHING!! You can't paint anything while heating the garage with kerosene, fuel oil, an electric heater, or anything with a flame, or an electric heat strip! You'll take a quick trip to the moon! You must have a heat source outside of where you are spraying paint! A propane or gas heater, completely isolated from the spray area is the ideal thing! BUT!! If you paint in the garage under the house, heated by the house gas furnace, your wife will be gagging after about a half hour of painting. That overspray sneaks into the system, and STINKS!! And, if you try to paint with oil heat in the paint area, you'll get "Fish-eyes", which makes the finish look like Tapioca pudding! And, maybe you won't have to worry about that, as you'll probably blow up the house!! There is a product that we used in auto paint, called Fish-eye eliminator, but it may not be compatible with the base coat-clearcoat paints. Ask CNKS about that. RJ

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CNKS

11-13-2003 18:15:51




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 Re: Re: What heater to use in shop when I paint? in reply to Rusty Jones, 11-13-2003 16:14:01  
I agree not using heat -- having the same problem myself -- have to shut off heat, aerate building turn on heat, apply next coat, turn off heat, etc. Thinking about building a paint booth to suck in the warm air while sucking out the fumes. I have not used fisheye eliminator, because I have never heard anything good about it.



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Jerry B

11-14-2003 05:51:09




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 Re: Re: Re: What heater to use in shop when I pain in reply to CNKS, 11-13-2003 18:15:51  
It is my understanding that the fish eye eliminator is nothing more than an emulsifier that contains a silicone. Once used in a paint gun you will have to use FEE there after or throw away the gun. The silicone remains in the gun and affects any paint put into it later.

Aside from the flame/explosion possiblities, "cooking" overspray in an open flame enviroment just adds to the dust and dirt in the air. What isn't burnt dries in the air, and then settles on the wet paint. Makes you say "Dog gone it" in about 4 different languages.

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Rusty Jones

11-14-2003 19:35:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: What heater to use in shop when I in reply to Jerry B, 11-14-2003 05:51:09  
I don't know where you got that info about having to throw away the paint gun if you use fish-eye eliminator,(FEE) but whoever told you that is full of it! Don't you use laquer thinner to clean out the gun? That takes care of the FEE! When i painted cars, sometimes the final wash liquid(Pre-Kleano),or enamel reducer, didn't take off all of the silicone left on the old finish, so we had to add a squirt of FEE to take care of the problem. And i never threw out my paint gun! I know things have changed, but what do the painters use now to take care of the problem of silicones on the finish to be re-coated? I've been out of the business for 10 yrs. RJ

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