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Paint 'gloss' fads upon drying

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swamprat

01-05-2004 09:47:59




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I have a nice 1960 Ford (Red and Gray). When I paint the sheet metal with an siphon type gun, the paint is really glossy, but in the morning it is very 'flat'. However, if I brush on the same paint, it stays 'glossy'. I have used a cheap synthetic paint, but I will be getting a better paint, with a hardener catalyst. I am wondering about:1.) Air pressure and patetern, 2.)Humidity and temperture. Any advice would be helpful.

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CNKS

01-05-2004 18:11:59




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 Re: Paint 'gloss' fads upon drying in reply to swamprat, 01-05-2004 09:47:59  
If you are getting a better paint, such as PPG or DuPont, be sure you get the spec sheets, either from the dealer, or the internet, and do EXACTLY as the sheets say with regard to the ratio of paint:reducer:hardener. When you get experience, you "may" be able to modify the procedure somewhat, but not now. Get the right reducer for the temperature you are spraying, and pay attention to the recommended time between coats, etc. Most topcoats (not necessarily all) are designed for 50% overlap, i.e., make one pass and overlap the other 50%, and so on. Don't try to double coat (100% overlap) or put on a second coat before the first one flashes (15 min or whatever it says on the spec sheet) -- this will also cause fading or dieback, sooner or later. I haven't noticed dieback on the sheet metal, but I have on the cast, due to the irregular surfaces and my impatience to get it all covered fast, rather catching the missed or thin areas with the next coat.

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Rusty Jones

01-05-2004 14:48:22




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 Re: Paint 'gloss' fads upon drying in reply to swamprat, 01-05-2004 09:47:59  
First off--you probably reduced (thinned) the paint too much for spraying, and didn't put enough on the object! If you go to painting with hardener, it won't make much difference, if you thin the paint as much as before! It'll still look dried out. Go on down to the local auto body shop. Ask them for some parts like a hood and fender, take them home, and practice spraying those places on them, with small amounts of paint/ thinner, in masked off areas. Mask off small areas with newspaper and masking tape for your practice areas. When you get the right combination of paint/thinner/air pressure, try that on your parts, then you'll know how to get the correct look from your work! Another tip is to hold the spray gun perpendicular to the surface, so you get aneven coat of paint! Too many inexperienced fellows spray in an "arc", and the end result is too much in one place, and not enough in another! Then they go back and spray over it, and get runs and sags in the finish! I have found that 45-55 lbs. air pressure is usually high enough for painting. If you are using an air compressor with a small tank and low cubic feet per minute, you'll probably have to wait every so often for the compressor to catch up. And, if you are thinking about buying an air compressor, just remember: They'll all pump up to 125 lbs. or so! But its not about pressure--its cubic feet per minute! The higher the cfm, the longer you can spray or run air tools before the compressor comes back on. The lower cfm will not be suitable for air tools--it won't keep up--you'll run out of air, and probably burn out the motor! RJ ps: any ?. E-me

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swamprat

01-06-2004 03:35:42




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 Re: Re: Paint 'gloss' fads upon drying in reply to Rusty Jones, 01-05-2004 14:48:22  
Thanks, I have been 'fooliin' around with it, now its time to get serious and do the job once...and right. Cheers



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