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Joe VA

01-23-2004 10:34:48




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Has anyone made a home made system? I was thinking that a clean shop-vac could be used to force air to a mask. Plug the vac exhaust, use a valve to control the pressure to the line and your mask. Tell me, what do you think? I may be out in left field on this!




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Joe VA

01-26-2004 08:25:26




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 Re: Home made Air System in reply to Joe VA, 01-23-2004 10:34:48  
Thanks for all the good advice! I'm going to get a HobbyAir system. Thank You.



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Jason (Ma)

01-24-2004 10:06:41




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 Re: Home made Air System in reply to Joe VA, 01-23-2004 10:34:48  
How about taking a look at fire dept surplus SCBA equipment. Most dept are up grading from 30 min systems to 60 min. There is a lot good safe systems out there for short money.



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Rusty Jones

01-24-2004 08:33:32




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 Re: Home made Air System in reply to Joe VA, 01-23-2004 10:34:48  
The air compressor used in the spray mask set-up is an oil-less, diaphragm compressor. The mask is like a regular paint spray mask, except it has an air intake from the compressor, and a one way outlet valve! I converted a regular spray mask for this use! You can buy a smaller diameter air hose to use on it. You'll have to plug up the places where the air filters screwed in, and put in the other valves. You may want to install an air filter on the compressor intake! You must set the compressor outside, away from any paint spray! Install an air inlet control valve to adjust the pressure inside the mask. A pair of tight fitting goggles will keep the spray out of your eyes. buy some paper coveralls at the auto paint store (cheap-rugged) They're baggy, but protect yer clothes! now, if yer only going to paint one or two tractors, or parts, it doesn't make sense to pay a lot of gold for a commercially built set-up, when you can follow the above info. 0NE WORD OF CAUTION:!! IF YOU HAVE ASTHMA, OR ARE ALLERGIC TO PERFUME, EGGS, OR OTHER THINGS---DON'T EVEN CONSIDER USING PAINT WITH HARDENER, OR THE NEW ISOCYANATE PAINTS!! THEY'LL GIVE YOU MUCH TROUBLE!! I CAN'T GO WITHIN 200 YARDS OF AN AUTO PAINT SHOP, WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR EXHAUST FAN RUNNING--I LOSE MY ABILITY TO GET MY BREATH, AND HAVE A FULL-BLOWN ASTHMA ATTACK--THIS FROM PAINTING WITH ISO' AND ACRYLIC ENAMEL WITH HARDENER! And, they have the latest exhaust fans! The mfgrs. didn't warn us auto body painters about that stuff until we got it in our systems! By then, we were caught up in it! RJ

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bill b va

01-24-2004 07:11:52




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 Re: Home made Air System in reply to Joe VA, 01-23-2004 10:34:48  

joe.. i had thought about using the dicharge side (exhaust) of a vacum cleaner for a air source but decided against it because the air is run over the motor to keep it cool .nearly all vacum cleaner motors are brush motors there fore you would get the motor arcing gases in your air .



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rhouston

01-23-2004 11:30:02




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 Re: Home made Air System in reply to Joe VA, 01-23-2004 10:34:48  
I can tell you the responses you'll get

What is your life/health worth to you ????
Don't risk it get professional equipment.



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carpenter

01-23-2004 15:05:32




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 Re: Re: Home made Air System in reply to rhouston, 01-23-2004 11:30:02  
Everyone with any sense will tell you to buy one, you are probably paying mostly for their liabillity insurance.

I made one that I have painted two tractors with inside a home made spray booth.

The spray booth evacuates a lot of the deadly poison first.

I used a $25.00 bathroom exhaust fan as the pump.
Taped it up so it did not leak ands was more efficent. Taped a furnace filter over the intake so as not to allow flies or such to enter.
Placed fan in a tape tight box and ran a sealed 8 inch supply from box to a dependable fresh are supplied on the other side of the building.

I then installed a $6.00 25 foot long one piece section of sump pump discharge pipe about 1 and 1/4 inches in diameter from exhaust on fan,(you will need to fabricate a bushing),to a very good organic respirator mask.

Tape shut one of the filters.
Twist out the other filter and insert and secure sump discharge pipe. Mine fit very tight and securely.

Put it on and turn it on. Get a helper or a mirror and make sure the discharge or exhale valve is discharging all the time even when you take fast deep breaths.

I then put a sandblasting hood over this and it worked sweat.

You will also nead a complete tyveck suite and rubber gloves.

If you smell any paint at all it is not working.

Paint is attracted to moisture like your eyes and will be absorbed here also. If you have glass and there is any penatration it will show up on the the inside or face side of your lenses.

On one occasion I did not pull the hood down all around and got a wiff of the poison.

Maybe you can buy at least the head gear as this is the most difficult part of the risky scheme.

If you have any doubts about building this and using it buy one instead.

Good Luck- Be Careful,
carpenter

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