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Butch

02-12-2004 06:02:04




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A few weeks ago somebody posted about having a decent looking paint job on his tractor but only using 2 quarts of paint. At the time I posted that it probably was too thin. My apologies to him for potentialy bad advise. Guess I have been working on too many large tractors lately as I just finished a model WD Allis that has at least three coats on every part of it and on the base castings I am sure that there are places with 4-5 due the difficulties painting such and my poor techniques. Anyway I finished last night and before I knocked the lid back on the can I dropped my paint stick in it to measure the left overs, almost exactly 2 quarts. This WD was not given a splash job over an assembled tractor. The base castings were all assembled and when I was ready to paint I striped the sides of the motor, trans and rearend that are almost hiddon behind the frame rails, painted the inside of the frame rails, painted the outside of the final drives and the inside of the rear wheels. After the paint was given a few minutes to tack we assembled those parts along with the front pedistol. The rear fenders were also installed and that part of the tractor was painted as a unit. The fuel tank, hood, cowl, tool box, shutters, front wheels and quite a few smaller parts were painted later after the base was rolled out of the booth. The paint job does not look thin, as a matter of fact it looks almost too thick on the sheetmetal with 3 coats. Considering that I used only one half of my finishing materials here is the rundown of the cost to paint the tractor.
1 quart of PPG Omni epoxy primer and hardner, $25
1/2 of 1 gallon MTK OMNI, hardener, reducer $60
Total material outlay $85

I have a little assembly work to complete and am waiting on decals. I will post some pictures when it is complete. This is why some of us are allways touting the use of good paint, or at least the "economy" automotive grade paint and HVLP equipment to apply it. It really does not cost much more to use it. Of course if you can still get Delstar or it's Dupount equal and use a regular high pressure outfit to apply it you can easily get $175-250 in paint materials to do the same job.

Bored at work today and darned proud of the WD. I have the pictures in a few days.

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Rod (NH)

02-13-2004 13:06:16




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 Re: Random ramblings in reply to Butch, 02-12-2004 06:02:04  
Hi Butch,

I have checked a number of PPG suppliers within a hundred mile radius of me and none of them still mainatin the Delstar mix colors. I did email PPG who told me to call one of their main warehouses. I have not done that yet but I don't think it will be promising. Be damned if I will drive a hundred or more miles for it. It's great stuff but not THAT great and there are decent alternatives such as the OMNI MTK that are readily available locally.

I still have almost a gallon of DAR9000 jet black, some midtemp DTR reducer and a pint of unopened Delthane hardener that is about 15 years old. The Delthane is still in a liquid state :o). I haven't checked but I doubt that the hardener is available locally either since I think it is unique to the Delstar line.

At one time I looked into DuPont because I like their Centari a lot. Unfortunately, the persian #1 orange (655 I think) is only mixable in NASON at this time. I have never used NASON but believe it to be on the same par as OMNI.

SOOOO...MTK it is.

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CNKS

02-12-2004 08:09:01




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 Re: Random ramblings in reply to Butch, 02-12-2004 06:02:04  
Using the per gallon prices, the last time I bought the same thing -- $96, so you get a better price than I do. I probably use the same amount of epoxy that you do, but probably closer to 3 quarts MTK for a similar size tractor. I paint all the small parts I can remove separately, and due to my inefficiency waste a lot of paint. My final cost would be a little higher because I probably used about 5 coats of 182 surfacer on the sheet metal, counting what I sand off--so maybe $125 total? still not bad for quality materials. Bought by the gallon, the rest carries over to the next tractor, except for the hardener.

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