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bill b va

02-15-2004 12:12:43

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Ok laugh....i have been doing research about painting before i tackle painting my 78 3/4 ton 4x4 chev.truck .i am still doing body work but am looking ahead for painting . i bought some primer and paint and was given a painter's pail with all these numbers on it. i think they are mixing ratio and conversion tables but can't quite figure out how they are used . i did figure out there is two sets of numbers one set to be read from the out side the other from the inside . there is a chart like on the side with numbers going horizonal 2:1:.5:1-- vertically under the 2 is 3 under that is 2 under that is 1 . there is other columns with different numbers .is there a web site that explains for us dummies..... .....thanks bill.. who is intimiated by computers and paint pails .

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CRUSADER

02-16-2004 11:40:08

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Re: painter's pail help in reply to bill b va, 02-15-2004 12:12:43

Hey Bill,
I know I am the LAST person that should be trying to give anyone advice on painting. But something that I found when I was attempting to paint used equipment for resale very handy was a viscosity meter. Once you make the mixture, put it in the tube and time how long it takes to drain out. This should give you an idea of how much paint or reducer is needed to be added. None of the jobs that I did would ever win first prize at the shows, but the majority of them looked pretty darned good, and I didn't have very many complaints or do-overs.

later days mate,
Jim

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Butch

02-16-2004 04:24:04

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Re: painter's pail help in reply to bill b va, 02-15-2004 12:12:43

Bill, Those mixing cups confuse me too so there is at least two of us. I use a mixing stick which you should be able to get at any automotive paint supplier. I do keep a couple of those cups around for mixing. The sticks are numbered 1- whatever from the bottom in several scales for different batch sizes. For a 4-1-1 mix you stand the stick in the cup and pour paint to 4, hardener to 5 and reducer to 6 then use it to stir and (important) wipe it off before you go spray. A person nneeds to use a container with straight or reasonably straight sides for the stick to be right on ratio. I am getting to where I can throw things together for little batches on small parts but it wasn't that way in the beginning and for things I want to be real right I still mix with a stick. I have found that with the paint I use, PPG OMNI that a dash of reducer makes a huge differance in finish quality.

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Rod (NH)

02-15-2004 17:54:00

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Re: painter's pail help in reply to bill b va, 02-15-2004 12:12:43

Hi Bill,

I don't know if this is the kind of pail you are talking about but this may help even if it is not exactly the same as you have. I have seen them in paint stores and have sort of smiled at them. Rusty mixes paint like my wife mixes up something to bake...a little of this, a little of that, some more of this, stir and bake :o). Geez. Always seems to come out great though. I do actually measure my paint mixes. I use several sizes of pyrex kitchen mixing cups and measure either in ounces or milliliters. It doesn't really matter which because it is all relative. For small quantities to be used in a spot gun, I use 2 oz paper drinking cups. They are cheap, easy to use and you don't need to bother to clean them. If I only need a half paper cup of something, I just visually estimate it. You don't have to be extremely precise but you ought to try and come reasonably close to the mix ratios recommended by your paint manufacturer.

I fully agree with Rusty on the practice. If you have not painted with spray equipment much, you should practice on some vertical test panels. There just is no substitute for it. Good results are more in the hands of the guy doing the spraying than in the equipment used. I am a firm believer in that.

Rod

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Rusty Jones/ The Mower Ma

02-15-2004 13:05:43

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Re: painter's pail help in reply to bill b va, 02-15-2004 12:12:43

Bill: If ya never sprayed paint before, do this: i'm assuming you have a spray gun and at least a 5 h.p. compressor. Use about 40 lbs. pressure. Mix up some primer and thinner in the bucket. Not a lot, about an inch in the bottom. Stir well. Have an old fender or something to test your mixture on.Stand it up vertically. Spray the mixture in one pass across the panel. Not too fast, or too slow. Stop and let it set there. If it runs off, its too thin. If it looks like pudding, its too thick. You'll have to experiment with the primer ,and the color, too. Don't feel bad about not being able to read and/or understand the stuff printed on the bucket! I painted cars for 45 years! Somebody asked me how i mixed the paint. I said, "well, i pour in the thinner, stir it up, and when it looks good, running off the stick, i go and apply it!" The paint rep just shook his head, and my boss told him not to try to teach me the right way to paint. My paint jobs matched the factory look! RJ

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