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Johneodeere

05-12-2004 14:34:59




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I bought some of the valspar hardener to use with some OEM Cub Cadet paint and wondered if I could or need to use it in the primer. Also I am sand blasting some areas of the tractor do I need to use etching primer. I am not looking for a show model but I want to do a nice job that will hold up relatively well.
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Butch

05-12-2004 17:41:21




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 Re: Hardener in reply to Johneodeere, 05-12-2004 14:34:59  
Don't use it in the primer and per my standard caution if that hardener is not listed on the paint label it would be best to apply a bit of your home brew to some scrap before taking the chance of ruining your prep work on the Cub. Some materials just dont mix. Etching is simply scratching a surface to allow a coating to "tooth in" for adheasion. This can be done mechanicaly by sanding or sandblasting or chemicaly with etching primer. Although some seem to think it is the answer to primer related paint problems it is nothing of the sort. On new sheetmetal it is a time and labor saver. Any old surface that has been sanded, blasted or wire wheeled has already been etched. There are much better primers than self etching for your project, the epoxies. If they are not in the budget you might as well use Rustolium or what ever they sell where you got the paint.

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Zeke

05-22-2004 13:18:10




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 Re: Re: Hardener in reply to Butch, 05-12-2004 17:41:21  
Do not use a hardener with your primer. Primer is nothing more than a coating with two functions. 1. to adhere to your base metal. 2. to give your top coat something to grab on to i.e.to provide "tooth". Hardener does a couple of things- 1. makes the paing tougher, 2. gives the paint a higher gloss without having to rub out the paint. Putting hardener in your primer will probably not allow your top coat full adheasion. Keep it simple- just follow the manufacturers directions as they know a lot more about paint and chemestry then we ever will...

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