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Jason Z in MO

05-26-2004 13:03:10




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I have been reading some posts about the hazards of painting without a fresh air supply. I am getting closer to begin painting my JD B which will bring a whole bucket of questions but...

About the fresh air breathing; in my shop I have an 80 gal 2 stage compressor. From what I am reading, great for a lot of things but not breathing. I have another small compressor I picked up as military surplus. It has a sticker on it that says oil-less. It doesn't have any oil in the compressor. It has a small tank 20 or so gallons.

Would this compressor be suitable for breathing? If so, where can I get a hood or mask to make my own breathing setup?

I thought about using my scuba tanks but then you are limited by time and the cost of filling.

My next questions will be recommendations about primers and paints!

Thanks for your help!

Jason

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Dozerboss

05-27-2004 19:22:49




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 Re: breathing air supply... in reply to Jason Z in MO, 05-26-2004 13:03:10  
I bought my fresh air supply system on ebay one piece at a time. I use a bullard pump from a sand blasting outfit. I mounted it on a cart so its portable, pump on top, 100ft hose reel on bottom. For the mask i found a good deal on a half face fresh air mask and adapted the air fitting to regular high flow shop fittings. This works for me as i wear glasses. When blasting i wear a hood over my head, but recently found a helmet type that i need the air tube for. I made one out of pool hose but its always in the way. When painting i wear old glasses with goggles and a hood sock over my head. ISO 's are really bad, buy or build a system your health is more important than $. If you need to get your painting done now, buy a system now whether you use the air compressor type or fresh air type. I have had iso's burn my skin and eyes and give me terrible headaches trying to cheat on touch ups painted outside with reg mask protection. So you can imagine what they do to the soft tissues inside your body. It took a week of eye drop therapy for my eyes to quit burning. If my eye prescription didn't change as frequently as it does i would have the specs made and go to the full face mask. I spent about $400 on everything buying it piece meal and i have a portable system that can be used for blasting or painting. The bullard pump was the most expensive part, they sell it with a full suit for around $2000. $400---Thats cheaper than 1 visit to the emergency room, medication and maybe lung damage or a week out of work recovering from the effects of exposure for sure.

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Butch

05-27-2004 07:33:04




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 Re: breathing air supply... in reply to Jason Z in MO, 05-26-2004 13:03:10  
Unless your compressor is pumping oil like the lube gun at Fast Lube there is little more danger to breathing air from it in a mask than breathing in your shop while you use that same air to blow the dirt out of the painting area, IMO. CN and I dissagree here, but not on the matter of safety, only where each of us draw the line between "safe" and "unsafe" Truth to be known there is no hard line. To be absolutely "safe" from potential health problems requires that you hang up your ameture painting carrer and also require that anybody up wind of you does the same. CN feels that the extra margin of safety given by the dedicated fan is worth the money, I do not, that does not make me right, nor him wrong. If you are willing to spend what it takes to be as safe as you can be and still spray paint then plan on spending 100 grand or so, otherwise you, like the rest of us, must choose how much your health is worth. None of us likes to admit that but it is none the less true. If I had an oilless compressor laying around I would use it instead of my shop compressor (I guess I did finaly answer one of your questions, lol)

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CNKS

05-27-2004 17:47:10




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 Re: Re: breathing air supply... in reply to Butch, 05-27-2004 07:33:04  
I bought the Hobby Air on the recommendation of a person I was corresponding with when I started painting. Don't remember if I asked about compressed air or not--my compressor will probably handle a spray gun and a mask at the same time. Somehow I prefer the same air I breathe all day, when I'm painting (assuming the Hobby air is not contaminating it). However, I have probably violated more safety rules in my lifetime than Butch has, such as spraying pesticides without a mask to the point that I am now sensitized to many of them. And not wearing hearing protection when operating machinery (hearing aids in both ears, still say huh? a lot) the list goes on. Also got sick once from carbon monoxide poisoning. X-rays show a place on one lung that apparantly was caused by all the dust I breathed operating farm machinery, etc (not life threatening, luckily). Having seen the effects of my previous mistakes, I am trying to make fewer of them now. But, only partially successful.

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Jason Z in MO

05-27-2004 14:13:34




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 Re: Re: breathing air supply... in reply to Butch, 05-27-2004 07:33:04  
And I do appreciate your comments. I totally agree. To be totally safe stay at home, don't paint, don't drive cars, and don't drink beer... I see your point. If this was a career and I was atomizing a gallon or two a week then it would be money well spent. For the amount of painting I will be doing I need to decide what is an acceptable amount of risk; for me.

I found some respirator masks on ebay... Guess its better then a plastic bag over my head, a rubber band around my neck, and the air hose shoved underneath!

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CNKS

05-26-2004 18:04:04




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 Re: breathing air supply... in reply to Jason Z in MO, 05-26-2004 13:03:10  
This has been discussed recently, and a recent post by Rod(NH) along with a link will answer most of your questions -- I think Butch also has a setup with a compressor. I prefer to use a Hobby Air, which does not use a compressor, just a blower; there are several methods.



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