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question for cnks iso sentisivity

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tommywtwwhowdy

11-23-2004 10:23:08




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how did you get sensitive to iso"s ,as much as i have painted i have thought ibout it some ,did you get one massive exposure or small doses?"have heard about iso sensitivity ,and known a couple of people with mild cases ,is yours pretty bad? what are the sympyoms of it.




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rustyj14@yahoo.com

11-24-2004 13:29:03




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 Re: question for cnks iso sentisivity in reply to tommywtwwhowdy, 11-23-2004 10:23:08  
I painted cars for many years, in my line of work. The early enamels didn't have the nasty stuff in it, like the newer paints have! I always used a charcoal mask, painted in a large, well exhausted paint booth, and didn't have any problems! Then, along came the Acrylic enamels, with hardener to be used in it, if we wanted to get a good result, and to make the paint resistant to gasoline, bird droppings, acids, etc. Nobody warned us about how the hardener would affect us, until much later, well after we had been exposed to it for quite a time! Then the paint companies decided they'd better tell us about the bad effects of hardener, and iso's in the paint! And suggested buying a supplied air system. (Which my boss resisted, but i ordered one any way!) Well, after some years of painting , it finally started to affect me. So, i went to work repairing old antique cars, but no painting! Finally, at the age of 72, i decided to retire. Now, at age 80, i can't go anywhere near any body shop or paint shop where the new paint is being sprayed, without going into a full-blown attack, where i can't get my breath, and almost pass out! I have to get fresh air immediately, mostly by riding around with my head stuck into the flow of air coming in my truck windows! Even near proximity to any iso painting does me in! There's an auto body shop across the street from where i get my gasoline, and if they are painting, i have to leave immediately! So, yes, it can affect you big time--maybe not now, but it will later on, if you persist in painting the iso paints! And, there's no cure for it--i'm stuck with it for life! by: Rusty Jones

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CNKS

11-23-2004 14:11:35




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 Re: question for cnks iso sentisivity in reply to tommywtwwhowdy, 11-23-2004 10:23:08  
Mine were very mild, the stuff was just letting me know it was there -- no gasping for breath or anything, just flu like symptoms for 3 or 4 hours. The 1st tractor I painted, I put the supplied air intake in the window. There wasn't any wind blowing through, and the fumes wrapped around and came through the blower -- although I could smell paint fumes, I finished what I was doing, only a few minutes. If I remember right, then I left the intake alone and wore a charcoal mask under the hood. Total painting time maybe 30 minutes. I felt no effects from that. About a year later I tried doing some very minor work with a touch up gun on some places on the wheels that I missed with the larger gun, wearing only a charcoal mask. Only an occasional squirt for a few minutes. That's when I had the symptoms -- I'm sure that's what it was. So with me it did not take a massive dose. However, I have used herbicides for weed control for over 30 years, and am sensitized to some of them. Although it is a completely different chemistry, I think my immune system, or whatever, thinks they are related. I believe more severe cases involve breathing difficulties and get worse from there. Iso's are not something to mess around with. They do not affect all people the same way, some people are ok for a while -- but those people will probably develop symptoms sometime. In my opinion, the stuff is accumulating over a period of time, and when it does have an effect, it will be severe.

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tommyw

11-27-2004 16:47:12




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 Re: question for cnks iso sentisivity in reply to CNKS, 11-23-2004 14:11:35  
thanks for the replys i kind of wondered because at the body shop we shot test panels and cleared them all the time with no mask,(stupid ,i know),im not having any trouble at all ,but im an avid martial artist and never have the wind and stamnia of some of the other fighters ,and im not overweight and was running 10 miles a week,doing 100 pushups and setups a day but cant seem to get the last little edge to get over the top.i am more careful these days ,i have the 1500$sas system to use ,but still wear a charcoal mask,guess i need to wear the supplied air ,but i have a hard time doing a good ,slick job looking through the lens,im not used to it.

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tommyw

11-27-2004 16:46:35




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 Re: question for cnks iso sentisivity in reply to CNKS, 11-23-2004 14:11:35  
thanks for the replys i kind of wondered because at the body shop we shot test panels and cleared them all the time with no mask,(stupid ,i know),im not having any trouble at all ,but im an avid martial artist and never have the wind and stamnia of some of the other fighters ,and im not overweight and was running 10 miles a week,doing 100 pushups and setups a day but cant seem to get the last little edge to get over the top.i am more careful these days ,i have the 1500$sas system to use ,but still wear a charcoal mask,guess i need to wear the supplied air ,but i have a hard time doing a good ,slick job looking through the lens,im not used to it.

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