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Painting A 1980 Ford 6600

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David Levitan

11-30-2004 18:35:37

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I have been searching the forum for awhile now and wanted to ask if anybody knows what FORD BLUE and FORD WHITE paint they used on The 1980 line of FORD NEW HOLLAND tractors. I am getting ready to prime and paint the sheet metal and fenders etc. this winter on my 6600. Do I have to add a hardener to this paint and deal with the safety issues of that or can I spray this NEW HOLLAND paint directly on a primed surface?. I was reading earlier about JD green and wanted to get some insight with FORD NEW HOLLAND. Rod (NH), maybe you could comment on this issue with your experience. Thanks DaveL

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kyhayman

12-01-2004 15:43:17

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Re: Painting A 1980 Ford 6600 in reply to David Levitan, 11-30-2004 18:35:37

I use only the dealer OEM paints from the dealer. Tried most every way in the world to cut paint cost and what I found was cheaper 'will do' paints faded faster and didnt behave as well. Using paint codes and getting premium automotive paints mixed was cost prohibitive. Most all the dealer paints are running me from $35-$50 a gallon. The cheap stuff is $20-$25 so for very little more cost getting lot better paint. Almost all of them are acrylic laquers or alkyd enamels. Not in the league of something like DuPont Centauri (acrylic enamel) with hardener but a lot less expensive (last one of those I did, the paint, primer, and additive cost was over $300 and the color still wasnt quite right).

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Rod (NH)

12-01-2004 13:52:23

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Re: Painting A 1980 Ford 6600 in reply to David Levitan, 11-30-2004 18:35:37

Hi Dave,

I have zero experience with the so called "tractor paints" that one gets from tractor dealers and no knowledge of Ford/New Holland colors so I guess I can't help you out specfically. It is my understanding that the dealer paints are typically synthetic (and some possibly acrylic) enamels. As such, they shouldn't require a hardener additive or respiratory protection beyond a standard cartridge mask. They are relatively inexpensive old paint technology. Check out the can label for type of paint and any instructions on mixing and use. Unlike most automotive paints, you are not likely to find published technical data sheets from the manufacturer on the product but you should be able to get basic usage and safety directions from the can label. You might try the Ford Forum at this site for info about the colors used on those tractors.

Rod

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CNKS

12-01-2004 12:33:06

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Re: Painting A 1980 Ford 6600 in reply to David Levitan, 11-30-2004 18:35:37

I doubt if any tractor manufacturer sells urethane paint -- that's the only one that requires hardener. Synthetic and acrylic enamels perform better with hardener, but it is not a requirement. If the NH paint you are considering buying is synthetic (aklyd)sp?, rather than acrylic enamel, you should find another paint source, as it is not long lasting unless your tractor is kept inside.

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txblu

12-01-2004 11:06:01

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Re: Painting A 1980 Ford 6600 in reply to David Levitan, 11-30-2004 18:35:37

Bought some paint from TSC and on the can was a notice to not forget the hardner and something else. Guess the paint can't hold up on it's own and need to add things to get it to do it's job.

If it's shedded, might not need hardner.

Regardless, why can't you go to your NH dealer and get the NH numbers from him and go to a paint store like Sherman Williams and get them to cross reference it to what you want.

Or maybe the TSC's Best Paint Sold knows, or maybe TISCO who makes lots of paint for the aftermarket machinery.(but watch their JD yellow.....tain't yellow, it's gold)

One last thing. Know nothing of "Ford White". The color that looks like that is Ford Light Gray. Put the two side by side and you know the difference.

Mark

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txblu

12-01-2004 11:05:32

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Re: Painting A 1980 Ford 6600 in reply to David Levitan, 11-30-2004 18:35:37

Bought some paint from TSC and on the can was a notice to not forget the hardner and something else. Guess the paint can't hold up on it's own and need to add things to get it to do it's job.

If it's shedded, might not need hardner.

Regardless, why can't you go to your NH dealer and get the NH numbers from him and go to a paint store like Sherman Williams and get them to cross reference it to what you want.

Or maybe the TSC's Best Paint Sold knows, or maybe TISCO who makes lots of paint for the aftermarket machinery.(but watch their JD yellow.....tain't yellow, it's gold)

One last thing. Know nothing of "Ford White". The color that looks like that is Ford Light Gray. Put the two side by side and you know the difference.

Mark

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txblu

12-02-2004 06:04:16

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Re: Painting A 1980 Ford 6600 in reply to David Levitan, 12-01-2004 17:13:30

Ask them (paint shop) they ought to be the experts.

I think I have www'd Tisco to get paint info. Surely they can help you on colors.

I buy numerous items from Stevens. I do know that you have to be careful on the older Ford distinction.

Case in point. Wanted some cowling Ford decals. Shipped me the silver and red ones. Asked for the black, blue, and white.....predecessor tractor. Made the order good but had to go find the ones I wanted. Took a couple months.

Mark

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