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Wayne Wiseman

12-13-2004 18:28:56




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I saw the John Deere 2440. What a beautiful paint job. I will be painting a 1950 Ferguson TO20 next spring. Would you be willing to share some of your ideas and talent on painting tractors? Questions like what type of primer and/or self etch did you use? Did the paint job in the picture have to be buffed or is the paint job straight from the gun? I was planning on using NAPA paint urethane but looking at the picture maybe I should use PPG. What price of paint did you use? Any special painting technics? I have a Sharpe gravity flow paint gun. This will be my third tractor but the other two didn't look like your John Deere but I did not use automotive paint. What type of paint mask did you use. I will be using a hardener in the paint, using a charcoal mask and painting outside. Did you use a fresh air mask?

Hope you can give me some tips. What a great paint job. Wayne from Corydon, Indiana

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Indydirtfarmer

12-14-2004 04:03:22




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 Re: Questions for INDYDIRTFARMER in reply to Wayne Wiseman, 12-13-2004 18:28:56  
WOW! You're not too far from me. I live in Louisville, but farm near Hanover Indiana.

I'm about a rank amature at painting, so my answers might SOUND amaturish.

The tractor I painted (the 2440) wasn't in that bad of shape. It was faded after 28 years, but wasn't rusted. It needed just a little "prep work". I bought my paint at "Louisville Auto Paint" They have a store on Eastern Blvd. In Clarksville. I went with a PPG primer that they recomended. I wire wheeled the entire "chassis" and wet sanded all the sheet metal. Then I primed everything. (Tractor was in a partial state of dismantle) I gave the primer about 48 hours to dry. (In 80*+ heated shop) Then I lightly sanded again. (Wheels were sandblasted to bare metal, prepped and primed also)

The paint was applied with a Sharpe HVLP GF gun. I was VERY carefull to mix according to directions, instead of my usual "EYEBALL" method. I sprayed with 60 psi. There was no need to wet sand, buff, or polish. What you see is straight out of the gun, with 4 days dry time. (In the heated shop...Temps were at 75 while spraying, and kept as high as possible [maybe 85*] after)

The paint I used is PPG/Ditzler "Del-Fleet". It was mixed for someone else, who then failed to pick it up. I was given a "deal" to get me to use it. (I WAS going to use conventional enamal) From what I remember, the gallon of green and activator was retail about $175. I got it for under $100. The yellow was mixed fresh and cost me about $110 with activator. (It was discounted also, to give me the incentive to use the green urethane)

I used a Binks Millenium mask. My shop has good FILTERED exhaust and a fresh air intake. (That makes it rather difficult to keep the temps up when it's cold outside.) The biggest problem I see with outdoor painting is controlling dirt/dust/insects. That's not quite so serious when painting the castings, but the sheet metal will show up dirt and dust if any gets in the painted surface.

Like I said, I'm just a beginner. Some "experts" might see things different. I just did what "works" for me. I think my results speak for themselves.

Good luck! Email me at jfugit@iglou.com if you need ant help. I'lll be glad to do what I can. John

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txblu

12-14-2004 06:10:19




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 Re: Questions for INDYDIRTFARMER in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 12-14-2004 04:03:22  
Don't be so modest....."I'm about a rank amateur at painting".

Gonna have to raise my trousers, it's gettin deep. Grin.

You can paint my tractors anyday.

Mark



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Indydirtfarmer

12-14-2004 06:38:43




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 Re: Questions for INDYDIRTFARMER in reply to txblu, 12-14-2004 06:10:19  
Let's see. I have a restored Massey Ferguson 50 that I paid someone else to shoot. My Ferguson 40 is still in prime. I did paint the MT I just finished. Looked OK...Had a couple flaws though. Then I did the 2440,

My complete resume' as far as painting goes....John



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john in la

12-14-2004 10:28:47




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 Re: Questions for INDYDIRTFARMER in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 12-14-2004 06:38:43  
Well some things are very hard to teach/learn. Painting is one of them in my mind.

On the other hand some people just do it with out even thinking.



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Indydirtfarmer

12-15-2004 05:35:24




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 Re: Questions for INDYDIRTFARMER in reply to john in la, 12-14-2004 10:28:47  
I spent a great deal of time working around a friend of mine that paints classic cars for a living. I ask him all sorts of questions whenever I have the opportunity. He is good at explaining things in a way that I can grasp the concept of what he's trying to teach me. Also, I buy my paint material from a shop that has some very helpfull people working there.

Finally, this site has taught me plenty.

From this point on, it's PRACTICE-PRACTICE-PRACTICE!

(also, I'm lucky enough to be able to work with good equipment, in a well equipped shop. Having the right stuff to work with helps a lot) John

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