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Tim...OK

12-15-2004 06:17:00




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Needing some recommendations..I"ve read til I"m blue in the face,think I"m more confused now than I was when I started (grin) I want something thats gonna be be glossy and durable..I"m not gonna be doing this alot,so at this point I don"t want to invest in the fresh air system to do the hardened urethane,but I want it to look good..I don"t mind paying the price for good quality paint,short of the air system,what would you guys recommend for a rookie with a big air compressor,a decent siphon gun and a charcoal mask?

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Tim

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Tim...OK

12-17-2004 05:43:53




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 Re: Type of paint... in reply to Tim...OK, 12-15-2004 06:17:00  
thanks for the input guys,I appreciate it..

Tim



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rustyj14

12-15-2004 12:43:59




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 Re: Type of paint... in reply to Tim...OK, 12-15-2004 06:17:00  
I'd reccommend acrylic enamel if you can still buy it where you live. As for the charcoal mask, if you are going to do only one machine, you could use AE hardener in the paint, as long as the painting area is well ventilated! It takes a long time for that type of hardener to affect you! The newer types of paint hardeners are worse for you! If you are going to do lots of painting with the newer paints and hardeners, by all means get the whole package! But, for 1 paint job, if i was doing it, and hadn't painted cars as long as i have, i'd use a charcoal mask, with the pre-filters on it. One word of warning:!!: If you have an asthma condition or have any trouble with your breathing, or can't be near any paint spraying without getting choked up, let somebody else do it! The hardener will really affect your breathing! Ask me how i know! by: Rustyj

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CNKS

12-16-2004 07:59:12




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 Re: Type of paint... in reply to rustyj14, 12-15-2004 12:43:59  
"It takes a long time for it to affect you"--NOPE. It affected me the 2nd time I used it. A fresh air system is essential.



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rustyj14

12-16-2004 09:01:53




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 Re: Type of paint... in reply to CNKS, 12-16-2004 07:59:12  
CNKS: I was talking with the voice of experience. It took me 10 yrs. to have any trouble with hardeners! No, i don't recommend anybody painting with out a fresh-air mask, etc., but i was talking with the voice of my experiences with AE paints. I don't think one paint job is going to hurt most folks breathing, long-time, if they are using AE, but this new type of paint, with that "Nasty " hardener in it, and the other stuff in it--yes, i don't recommend painting that crap without all of the right equipment! I don't think buying all of the stuff needed for breathing air, etc., is worth buying for one paint job., if they are using AE, especially for air drying the paint. Only problem with air-dry AE is, if gas gets spilled on it, it may wrinkle the paint! by: Rustyj

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CNKS

12-16-2004 18:08:54




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 Re: Type of paint... in reply to rustyj14, 12-16-2004 09:01:53  
Rusty, all hardeners contain iso's, and I don't want to spend a lot of time looking to see if the AE iso combination will kill you faster than the AU iso combination. I will NEVER recommend painting only one time with iso's without a fresh air system, your experience or not. Also the one time painter may become a several time painter. The results are cumulative, as you found out. One time, two times, 100 times, sooner or later it will get you, AE or AU.

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Rod (NH)

12-16-2004 16:24:51




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 Re: Type of paint... in reply to rustyj14, 12-16-2004 09:01:53  
Hi Rusty,

I think some people are much more sensitive to iso exposure, even minimal amounts, than others - and it is not something you can know beforehand. Also, as you say, some hardeners (that for IMRON is notable) seem to be a little more toxic than others. I understand some (even pros in the business) regularly paint using hardeners w/o fresh air. Not me though (anymore). I was affected the first car I did with hardener - Centari AE w/793S, using just a charcoal mask. And I wasn't in the business. Only took about 4 hours after painting. I was just too stupid or ignorant or bull headed to "get it" the first time though. After a second car and similar coughing w/severe shortness of breath all night, I finally "got it". The third car was done with fresh air and I have never had another problem in 30 years of painting off and on, here and there, always with hardener. I do not recall back then using a prefilter to the charcoal mask but such details were not well stated at the time - perhaps not even known. Indeed, the hazards of isos were not advertised well either. Not so today. There are plentiful cautions about iso exposure and recommendations to deal safely with it. No excuse if someone wants to do just a little bit of reading on the subject. He who ignores the written safety recommendations from the product manufacturers does so at his own risk.

I agree that air-dry AE w/o hardener avoids the iso issue but keep the gasoline off it for months.

third party image Rod

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Tim...OK

12-17-2004 05:41:14




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 Re: Type of paint... in reply to Rod (NH), 12-16-2004 16:24:51  
Thanks for the input guys..

Tim



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