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ric

01-19-2005 11:12:58




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im wanting to buy a good paint gun something that will do a good job preferably a hvlp type i dont know much about them really. i will be painting mostly tractors or maybe a truck or car here and there




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BillKY

01-19-2005 14:30:37




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 Re: paint gun in reply to ric, 01-19-2005 11:12:58  
have a $250 "professional grade" HVLP gun,made by Sharpe, and a $80 HVLP gun, that came from Home Depot, that I bought as a primer gun. I've sprayed a few things with each one. I can't tell the difference between the 2, as far as the quality of the results. The HVLP guns make an amature's work look way better than the old style siphon guns. I'd still take a good one (read more money) over a cheap-o, but you needn't spend a fortune to get results. Painting, as with most "skills", requires practice, and more practice, rather than dumping money into equipment. JMHO

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Drew Brady

01-19-2005 13:09:03




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 Re: paint gun in reply to ric, 01-19-2005 11:12:58  
Spend about 60$ to 100$ and get a good gravity feed gun.



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Cliff Neubauer

01-21-2005 18:59:35




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 Re: paint gun in reply to Drew Brady, 01-19-2005 13:09:03  
I use a Sharpe Platinum, it replaced a siphon gun from Walmart. The cheaper HVLP guns will do a okay job with enamel paints but they will have a hard time doing a good job with a high solids paint like a urethane or clear coat. Personally I would shop around on ebay for a used "good" brand name gun before buying a new cheap gun. The cheapest "good" gun that I'm aware of is the DeVilbiss Finishline III gun, it's not a professional quality gun but will deliver professional results for around $130 last time I checked. The $500 guns are designed to be used all day everyday in paint shops and while a cheaper gun like the Finishline III gun will do a great job of laying down paint they aren't durable enough for constant use but would be great for a somebody painting a few times a year.

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Seth_ia

01-19-2005 20:14:53




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 Re: paint gun in reply to Drew Brady, 01-19-2005 13:09:03  
There is no such thing as a good gun for less than a $100. Even at $250 your just starting to get into desent guns. You can get pretty good syphon feed guns for $250 and up. True pro grade HVLP are going to cost well over $500, probelly more like a $1000 plus if you want great one. If you are a skillful painter there is a definate difference in gun quality. I bought a cheap gun for primer, and I can really tell the difference. The fluid needles are not ground near as precise as in an expencive gun, which affects the quallity of spray even on primer. It takes alot more persistance to get the desired finish with a cheap gun.

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Big Jim

01-19-2005 22:27:31




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 Re: paint gun in reply to Seth_ia, 01-19-2005 20:14:53  
But there is such a thing as a decent gun for under $100. Sharpe FineX 300 is a worthwhile investment and will serve you well. I don"t go for Exotics but darned good guns are in the sub-$500 range. Brands like Iwata and Sata are universally used by the pros. Another option is a used gun. I gave $100 for my Sharpe Platnium - now a Snap-On exclusive line retailing for over $500.



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CNKS

01-20-2005 13:35:19




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 Re: paint gun in reply to Big Jim, 01-19-2005 22:27:31  
Sharpe discontinued the Platinum and replaced it with a gun that uses more air, I believe. Does Sharpe now build them for Snap-on, or what? It is an excellent gun. I bought a refurbished one from Sharpe for $183 a couple of years ago.



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Big Jim

01-24-2005 00:12:16




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 Re: paint gun in reply to CNKS, 01-20-2005 13:35:19  
I"ve been told that the Snap-On BF900 series is manufactured by Sharpe and is the same as the old Platnium. My year and a half old price list shows them at $504.



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BillKY

01-20-2005 12:32:56




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 Re: paint gun in reply to Big Jim, 01-19-2005 22:27:31  
That Sharpe Platinum is what I was referring to as my "$250 gun". I bought it from an auto paint supply house that had it on sale as "old stock" being sold off because they didn't carry that brand ant more. I guess I know why now....

It's a good gun without a doubt. I have painted 2 tractors, and a horse trailer with it. I have used my "cheap-o" Husky gun from Home Depot on a couple other tractors, just as an experiment. I've had "satisfactory results" with both. I'm finding that with practice, either gun is capable of doing good work. The cheap gun is more sensative to the paint being thinned properly. Not that it's UNIMPORTANT with any gun, being off just the least bit seems to effect the cheap gun greatly.

All things being equal, I'd still rather use the Sharpe gun. It seems to be a better fit and better balanced.

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dr.sportster

01-20-2005 12:53:05




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 Re: paint gun in reply to BillKY, 01-20-2005 12:32:56  
Back then the heavy metalflake paint was popular on custom bikes.Sharpe had a special gun for this.[Or a special nozzle]That was the prefered gun for large flake custom paint.



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dr.sportster

01-20-2005 09:25:11




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 Re: paint gun in reply to Big Jim, 01-19-2005 22:27:31  
I remember being at a Snap-on trade show and all the guys with the sharpe guns were complaining to the reps about the sharpe sprayguns.Overhearing all this I always avoided them.This was when they first came out.After that I bought Devilbliss.



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CNKS

01-20-2005 13:46:34




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 Re: paint gun in reply to dr.sportster, 01-20-2005 09:25:11  
The Sharpe Platinum comes highly recommended by everyone I have heard from that owns one. Have read several paint forums, no negative comments. Perhaps not as good as a $500 gun, but what more does a hobbiest need? Sharpe makes various guns, like most manufacturers; they recently introduced a lower priced line of guns, likely to compete with Devilbis, who has mhad them for several years. I also have a Sharpe Cobalt, to use as a primer gun, works fine for it's intended use. HVLP guns are sensitive to the needle/tip size, probably more so than gravity feed, perhaps that's part of the Snap-on peoples problem.

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Jack Mc

01-19-2005 19:18:50




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 Re: paint gun in reply to Drew Brady, 01-19-2005 13:09:03  
I agree-get a gravity feed- especially if you are using high dollar paint. You can get all the paint out of the gun and on your project, instead of that that is left in the bottom of a cannister gun that has to be solvent cleaned out. Jack



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tommyw

01-22-2005 19:18:42




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 Re: paint gun in reply to Jack Mc, 01-19-2005 19:18:50  
i use the sata guns ,nr 95"s ,and now a 2000 jet ,the 2000 is about 500$ new . but i work in dallas and there are some good pawn shops where a good nr 95 or 2000 will be about 250$ ,if it wont work it can be sent off and rebuilt for about 70$ ,i have 5 nr95"s and a 2000 and paid 250$ or less for all ot them . i used to paint cars at a body shop ,and the sata is top line .



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