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Butch (OH)

02-12-2002 18:53:11

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Just painted my first tractor with PPG Omni Urethane. The stuff is real temperature sensitive and I was of a little with the reducer and got more orange peel than I like. Never buffed a paint job before. Can anyone point me to a web site, or give me a little insight? It isn't bad enought to trash the paint job by not knowing what I am doing. Thanks

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Clooney

02-13-2002 16:13:28

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Re: Removing orange peel in reply to Butch (OH), 02-12-2002 18:53:11

Butch, are you talking about the whole tractor or just the sheet metal that has noticeable orange peel? If just the hood & fenders etc. you probably can save it & in the process get a real professional looking paint job. ~As Rod said, start with a light color sanding with 1000 grit then 1500 (be very careful on the edges & crowns that you don't break through into the primer) then if the LIGHT color sanding removed most of the peel just rub it out with a good compound & polish with a good swirl removing polish. ~If that urethane paint has been on for more than about a week you will work your hind end off trying to rub it out & might be farther ahead to do a good color sanding & if you break through to primer re-spray an additional 2 coats of color on, or if you can sand smooth without breaking through to primer spray on a 2 coat application of urethane clear.
~The way I usually handle an orange peel problem is after the final original color coat is sprayed on & flashed off if I see that I have more peel than I would like I will usually mix up some more color & add an additional coat or two with idea of having plenty of paint to sand on, then after a day or two I will do a fairly thorough color sanding with 1000 then finish up with 1500 then wait an additional day & rub out with Maguire's Mirror Glaze diamond cut 2.0 then follow up with 3M Finesse-it 2.
~On some projects I will do a good color sand with 1000 then 1500 then a final double coat of urethane clear.
~When color sanding wrap the paper around hard object like a paint stick, or my favorite an oblong hard rubber block to keep from making the surface wavy & blotchy looking.

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Butch (OH)

02-13-2002 19:25:41

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Re: Re: Removing orange peel in reply to Clooney, 02-13-2002 16:13:28

Clooney, Its just on the fenders. The castings look great. As a matter of fact, from 6' away the whole job looks great, with very nice shine. It is my first job with Onmi, I am used to the old Delstar enamels that could be applied with a blindfold on and leveled out perfectly. Maybe I'll could take a close picture of what I am talking about and send it to your e-mail If you don't mind?

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Rod (NH)

02-12-2002 20:38:14

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Re: Removing orange peel in reply to Butch (OH), 02-12-2002 18:53:11

You can try the link below for the Dupont site. I didn't see anything similar at the PPG site. Just sign in by clicking the button opposite "visitor login" and follow this path:

Products (in upper right)

Technical Manuals (on left)

Paint Defects Manual (on left)

Orange Peel (scroll down)

Personally I would try color sanding with 1500 grit wet or dry paper (Avail from 3M at most auto places such as NAPA) to see if the situation could be improved...by hand in an obscure area first. I am sure you want to avoid recoating but if it is severe, you may have to bite the bullet. That urethane should color sand OK although I have not tried it on that particular product.

Good luck, I know how you feel!

Rod

Dupont Performance Coatings

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Rod (NH)

02-12-2002 20:35:09

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Re: Removing orange peel in reply to Butch (OH), 02-12-2002 18:53:11

You can try the link below for the Dupont site. I didn't see anything similar at the PPG site. Just sign in by clicking the button opposite "visitor login" and follow this path:

Products (in upper right)

Technical Manuals (on left)

Paint Defects Manual (on left)

Orange Peel (scroll down)

Good luck, I know how you feel!

Rod

Dupont Performance Coatings

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