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Josh U

02-22-2005 17:31:13




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How much better a job can you do with an HVLP gun? I always seem to have orangepeel trouble with the old pot gun.




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Mike S 806/H

02-22-2005 21:49:04




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 Re: HVLP guns in reply to Josh U, 02-22-2005 17:31:13  
I wouldnt say a better job with a HVLP I have tried a cupple HVLP's and didnt like it. Takes alot more time to get the job done! You probley didnt have your air pressure right for the orange peel. I use 3 guns a Devilbiss plus, Astro and a craftsman cup gun. Its sad to say but I think I have done the best paint jobs with the craftsman!!! I use the devilbiss most now because I have $300.00 in it. The craftsman I bought on ebay for $25.00

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Josh U

02-23-2005 10:49:18




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 Re: HVLP guns in reply to Mike S 806/H, 02-22-2005 21:49:04  
I thought with the high volume the job went faster?



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CNKS

02-23-2005 11:44:13




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 Re: HVLP guns in reply to Josh U, 02-23-2005 10:49:18  
Nope, the lower pressure reduces overspray, meaning the guns waste less paint, or have more efficient paint transfer but that apparantly does not make up for the higher speed the conventional gun uses.



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Ed Holland

02-23-2005 10:01:25




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 Re: HVLP guns in reply to Mike S 806/H, 02-22-2005 21:49:04  
Mike,

What is your opinion of the Devilbiss Plus gun? I am comparing this gun to a Finishline II. I like the lower air consumption of the Plus gun, but it is not a true HVLP gun. How does the amount of overspray compare with true HVLP?

Thanks



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Mike S 806/H

02-23-2005 12:28:33




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 Re: HVLP guns in reply to Ed Holland, 02-23-2005 10:01:25  
It sprays like a coventional gun and I think just as much overspray also. The astro gravity feed coventional gun works great I have been very happy with it, it cost about $65/70.00



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CNKS

02-23-2005 06:21:13




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 Re: HVLP guns in reply to Mike S 806/H, 02-22-2005 21:49:04  
You are a typical person that learned with a conventional gun -- nothing at all wrong with that. HVLP requires a different technique. For a person who has not painted a lot, such as myself, HVLP is just as easy, I believe easier than conventional. In the hands of a skilled painter, the end result is the same. It's not the type of gun, but the person using it.



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Indydirtfarmer

02-22-2005 17:45:18




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 Re: HVLP guns in reply to Josh U, 02-22-2005 17:31:13  
Let me answer for all the rank amatures out there. ('cause that's where I fit in) I tried painting a few things over the years with old fashioned high pressure siphon guns. Bad luck prevailed.... I recently bought a cheap "Home Depot" Husky HVLP Gravity feed gun, and a MUCH better Sharpe Platinum HVLP Gravity gun. Then I painted a couple tractors. BOTH looked like a professional did them! (If I do say so myself!)

Advantages I saw with the HVLP gravity gun;

No wasting paint. Not near as much overspray in the air and on the ground. Easier to clean out when done. That equates to less paint used.

No "spitting" when the gun runs out of paint. If you DO get a good job, you won't ruin it with splattering paint from the gun.

Little or no orange peel (provided you get the paint thinned correctly) With the lower pressure, the paint lays on smoother. You asked about this issue. It WAS my biggest problem with my old gun. BOTH tractors look as slick as anyones paint job. I used acrylic enamel on one and uerethane on the second. That's two completely different animals, and they both did very well.

Like I said, I'm far from an expert. I think that makes using a PROPER gun MORE important. A pro can take just about any gun and do a good job. It's us "rookies" that need all the help we can get.

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Don L C

02-25-2005 19:28:39




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 Re: HVLP guns in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 02-22-2005 17:45:18  
All ways ,buy the best tools you can afford--- after talking with people who use them to make a living..My hobby shop (36'x100') was built and equiped with this advice in mind....Some of my friends haveused my shop for some of their prof. jobs----I hang around . ask questions and watch carefully....



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Scott KY

02-22-2005 19:11:43




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 Re: HVLP guns in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 02-22-2005 17:45:18  
I have never used an HVLP gun. What pressure do you use? Any other tips?



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john_bud

02-23-2005 19:36:42




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 Re: HVLP guns in reply to Scott KY, 02-22-2005 19:11:43  
One thing I noticed right off was that I mixed up far too much primer the first time I used a very cheap HVLP touch up gun. I mixed up enough for about 2 cups of primer (about 4 oz in the cup) and the whole job was done with 2 coats and I still had some primer in the cup and 4-5 oz still available.

It is also much more sensitive to paint viscosity. It seems that it wants it thinner than I've been mixing.

And yes, it seems to go on slower than with a conventional gun. But hey, there was less fog in the air and less paint wasted! So, a little extra time is no big deal. The plus is that it is harder to make a run as there is lots less paint going on.

jb

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Big Jim

02-24-2005 00:54:14




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 Re: HVLP guns in reply to john_bud, 02-23-2005 19:36:42  
HVLP guns easily use a quarter less paint because they put more on the job and less in the air.
There is quite a bit of difference in guns as to speed. My Sharpe Platnium is relatively slow but I have a ton of control. I use a purple HF HVLP as a primer gun and it puts out paint noticably faster. I've been told that SATAs tend to be high-speed production guns.



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