Nutter Nason question

Tim

• Ful-thane 3.5

I agree with you. You have every reason to be confused. That tech sheet is poorly written, IMO. It seems to mention four reducers as "components" but doesn't list any of them in the mix instructions. My guess then is that reducers are not really "recommended" at all, perhaps to keep the VOC low enough to meet a 3.5 spec. I guess also that the same mix is used for all temperatures (60-90+F) ?. The "accelerator" is another curious ingredient that is apparently also recommended at all temps. I certainly would want to make some test panels before tackling your tractor. If you reduce when reduction is not called for or recommended, it just increases your chances of runs unless you can accommodate it by changing your technique to suit. It also says to spray "reduced as recommended" but nothing is specifically recommended - a conflict.

It's also interesting that one of their sealers is "recommended" apparently even over their epoxy primer and their catalyzed surfacer which seems unusual to me. The specified 60-80 psig air pressure at the gun for suction and pressure feed seems very high also, compared with typical values for similar products by others. I have never used NASON so I am only speculating based on what the tech sheet seems to say, or not say. Certainly questions for Frank.

I am not surprised at the fact you couldn't get an answer from your paint salesman. It's another example of a sales person not fully knowledgeable about the product he's selling. I'll bet he didn't offer you a tech sheet either :o).

Rod

Thanks again,
Tim

Could get one but didn't keep them on hand? Jeez - this is not 40 years ago when they looked up formulas on microfiche and stocked reams of tech sheets on the shelf somewhere. He has more computer access to DuPont than you do. That's how he gets the mix formulas. He should be able to turn around, punch a few keys on his keyboard and print you out a tech sheet for any of the products he carries peddles - that is if he cares to bother and values you as a customer. I've seen this in my area also - if you're an unknown walk-in that doesn't bring a few grand a month in business their way, they are not going to go out of their way in the least for you. I have three local sources for DuPont and PPG. At one, the long time, experienced paint guy has retired and I have little confidence in the new replacement. At one other, the paint guy has such an obnoxious attitude that I refuse to buy even a roll of masking tape from him. Only one out of three has a paint guy that is pleasant, helpful and that I trust to provide a decent mix and reliable information - and he's the youngest of the three. Go figure.

It has been said by others and I repeat: A good counter person is more important than the brand, especially for newbies. DuPont and PPG are the 800# gorillas with this stuff but there are other options also. There are a number of less well known names that have similar lines of automotive paints. There's Sherwin Williams (yes, they do have automotive paint lines), Martin Senour (usually from NAPA stores - I understand they are simply SW rebranded), Rinshed-Mason, BASF and others. They all have more than one quality/cost line. I have no experience with brands other than DuPont or PPG and except for MS the others do not market at all in my area. However, I feel quite confident that they sell quality products. They have been in the refinish business a long time so they must be competitive. You might want to check out what else might be available to you locally, even if you have never heard of the brand.

Hopefully Frank can get your questions answered on the NASON. I believe he's a regional DuPont rep so he can go directly to the proper source within the organization. He's a nice contact to have on this board. Thanks for your effort Frank. There was a PPG regional rep that dropped by a year or so ago but didn't stay long and never came back.

Tim

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