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Carl S in NH

03-17-2005 11:51:36




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I have a 51 8N with a Wagner loader on it that I want to spruce up, both for looks reasons and protection reasons. This is a work tractor, so I am not too concerned with a perfect job but I do want it to look nice when I'm done. From the reading I've done here already, I'm pretty well decided on using something like Nason acrylic enamel, possibly with a hardener added (but I'm not totally convinced I want to go that route yet). I've worked on and off as a house painter for 30+ years, but always with a brush. This tractor painting will either be by brush or by rattle can spraying. I don't have a power sprayer and am not really interested in buying one or learning to use one just for this project. I am willing to put in time doing a proper prep job (sanding, scraping, wire brushing etc). There is very little rust anywhere to deal with. I realize I will probably have to remove the loader frame to do it properly. That will be a learning experience in itself, since I've owned this tractor for 30 years now and never had the loader frame off it. My mechanic did have to remove it this past fall when he replaced my clutch, so I know all the bolts will come off easily. I am hoping to do the wheels without removing the tires from the rims, especially the rear wheels since they are calcium filled and will be very heavy. I would like to use a medium gray paint for the hood & wheels, and a deeper red (implement red or IH red?) for the loader frame & cast parts of the tractor. Because I use this tractor for various jobs around my property, I can't have it torn apart for weeks at a time, so I might have to do some of the work piecemeal.
Given all of the above information, what tips & advice can anyone give me about types of paint, application methods, etc to help me end up with a decent looking job? Also, if anyone has any brand recommendations for the colors I want, let me know, please! Or if I should change my thinking about any of the above information, let me know that too. Thanks in advance.
Carl S.

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rustyj14

03-21-2005 10:41:22




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 Re: Painting tips advice wanted in reply to Carl S in NH, 03-17-2005 11:51:36  
Many years ago, when i was just getting started in auto body work, i painted a 1950 Ford pickup with a brush, since i had no air supply at home then. I used a good brush, and cross-brushed the paint, doing one section at a time, until i had a complete area done. The hood was done as a unit, and the fenders as 2 units. the top was done as a unit, too. By the time i got it all done, it looked good! Since you aren't going to use hardener in the paint, it will allow you to brush out the paint well. Also, if you plan on spraying acrylic enamel without hardener, use a regular 2 filter spray mask. You only need air supply for hardened enamels, or other types of paint that use hardeners. by: Rustyj

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rustyj14

03-21-2005 10:40:37




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 Re: Painting tips advice wanted in reply to Carl S in NH, 03-17-2005 11:51:36  
Many years ago, when i was just getting started in auto body work, i painted a 1950 Ford pickup with a brush, since i had no air supply at home then. I used a good brush, and cross-brushed the paint, doing one section at a time, until i had a complete area done. The hood was done as a unit, and the fenders as 2 units. the top was done as a unit, too. By the time i got it all done, it looked good! Since you aren't going to use hardener in the paint, it will allow you to brush out the paint well. Also, if you plan on spraying acrylic enamel without hardener, use a regular 2 filter spray mask. You only need air supply for hardened enamels, or other types of paint that use hardeners. by: Rustyj

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Rod (NH)

03-18-2005 09:33:10




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 Re: Painting tips advice wanted in reply to Carl S in NH, 03-17-2005 11:51:36  
Hi Carl,

Judging from the totality of your post I would recommend you consider a brush application of a standard, slow dry, synthetic enamel w/o hardener - typical of what you would find in the tractor stores or tractor dealerships. You should be able to get the correct colors in that type of paint even through this site - check out the "tractor parts" section.

The automotive paints are formulated as relatively fast dry materials intended for spray application. I believe that would include the NASON product you mention. I have never tried to brush-apply an automotive paint on anything other than very small parts so I am not positive, but I would be concerned about the ability to keep a decent wet edge on large parts such as a tractor hood. If you have ever brush-applied Sherwin Williams "Duration" paint to house siding in hot weather (even in the shade), you know what I mean. The stuff is great paint and dries fast (really too fast) but should be applied by airless spray equipment for anything other than small areas.

Since you lack spray equipment you most likely also lack the fresh air respiratory system needed to deal with isocyanates in paint hardeners. That's a personal safety matter that you will have to decide for yourself. Since I wouldn't use hardeners (even general brush application) myself w/o the fresh air equipment, I do not recommend it to others.

I certainly appreciate your situation with trying to paint a working tractor that you don't want to take out of service for long periods. My '42 AC-B is like that. It's one reason why I probably will never completely finish it. In any event, I have been able to do most of the sheetmetal work a piece at a time - that's the most important. The cast work is mostly cosmetic and it will easily last another 60+ years just fine, even with no paint :o).

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Carl S in NH

03-18-2005 21:07:01




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 Re: Painting tips advice wanted in reply to Rod (NH), 03-18-2005 09:33:10  
Rod,
Thank you for your complete answer. I tried to include in my post what I thought would be the relevant info needed to get proper advice. I will definitely look into an acrylic enamel as you suggested as soon as all this $#@! snow melts!!

Carl S (in Nottingham)



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dufrain

03-18-2005 21:23:04




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 Re: Painting tips advice wanted in reply to Carl S in NH, 03-18-2005 21:07:01  
I usually paint our trucks with equipment paint from the farm stores with hardner,but to save masking my dad gets a good brush and paints the wheels and they come out pretty good and shiny.You have to be within 3 or 4 feet of it to tell.The hard thing doing a whole tractor would be the detail areas where the paint will pool up and leave a gummy soft spot.You could save money and use the implement paint like we do,its about 40 dollars for a gallon of paint,gallon of regular enamel reducer and a pint of regular enamel hardner.Then you could go to harbor frieght your local farm store and spend 20-30 for a cheap spray gun and 100 or less on a small aircompressor and be ready to go.Implement paint is the most forgiving while you are learning,and it will cover up imperfections way easier than the nason.I have plenty of pictures of trucks i have painted with 40 dollar paint jobs if you want to email I can send you some.good luck on the paint job

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