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Jeb2N

07-14-2005 16:34:12




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How do you know if the primer coat has adhered well enough to the metal to beging spraying color or if you need to take it off and do it over again? Is there like a "fingernail scratch" test or something that you can do to judge whether or not it is good to go? Just curious as i'm still learning all this stuff. Thanks!

Jeb




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CNKS

07-14-2005 16:58:31




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 Re: Primer testing? in reply to Jeb2N, 07-14-2005 16:34:12  
Quality paints will have spec sheets with that infromation.



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CNKS

07-15-2005 17:09:56




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 Re: Primer testing? in reply to CNKS, 07-14-2005 16:58:31  
Rod is correct about the spec sheets -- I'm so used to using the computer before I buy anything, that I forget that people may not know where to look. The info used to be on the cans. Now instead of telling you how to use it, they put precautions in three languages on the cans. That's ok too because the products are dangerous -- 10-20 years ago, the companies did not adequately warn customers about health problems.

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Jeb2N

07-15-2005 06:38:56




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 Re: Primer testing? in reply to CNKS, 07-14-2005 16:58:31  
I don't have any paint yet. All I have is the can of primer and I don't recall seeing anything like that included with the can. I am using the NASON line of paints/primers that I get from NAPA but there are never any info sheets included with the stuff. You just get a can of paint. I've never really painted anything before this and so i'm looking for tips and pointers on this stuff. Please assume that I don't have any material/information sheets (because I don't!). Thanks.

Jeb

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Rod (NH)

07-15-2005 15:37:09




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 Re: Primer testing? in reply to Jeb2N, 07-15-2005 06:38:56  
Hi Jeb,

I am surprised that your NAPA store carries NASON. All the NAPA stores in my area are Martin Senour shops. Anyway, NASON is DuPont's "economy" or "value" line of automotive paint products. Technical data sheets (also called product data sheets) are available for NASON products. They detail how to mix and use the products and which products to use together to avoid having compatibility problems. These sheets should be available in hard copy at the same location that sells the product. You will not be given the appropriate sheets automatically. You'll have to ask for them. The store may not have them. The counter person perhaps has never heard of them or doesn't know if he has them or even where to find them if he does. The case of the person who doesn't know what he's selling. It happens all too frequently, especially where there is no dedicated paint counter with a paint specialist behind it. However, you can get the necessary technical sheets for NASON products at DuPont's Automotive Finishes website. Once there, follow this path to get to the NASON tech sheets in pdf format:

products>technical manuals>nason

I recommend you start with the tech sheet for the topcoat product that you are considering using and from there determine what other products, including primers, are recommended for use with it. If you use all the recommended products as specified, including indicated time periods, you should not have to be concerned with adhesion issues. I don't think there is any "test" that is practical for the end user to do to determine such a thing. Just make sure that the surface is clean by using a specialized surface cleaner prior to applying primer or paint. Once you have the tech sheets for the products you plan to use, you will likely know more about the subject than the salesman selling you the products.

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