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VanO

08-16-2005 19:15:00




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In order to paint a #8 little Genius Plow or any other equiptment, do you need to fill the rust pits with bondo? I guess what I need to know, (besides every thing about painting farm equiptment)is what are the basic stepes in order to get a good job that will last? Thanks, hope I have'nt ask to much.
VanO




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VanO

08-17-2005 11:49:34




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 Re: Paint question. in reply to VanO, 08-16-2005 19:15:00  
Thanks for all the help.
Damn the pits and full steem ahead. :)
VanO



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VanO

08-17-2005 11:46:22




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 Re: Paint question. in reply to VanO, 08-16-2005 19:15:00  
Thanks for all the help.
Damn the pits and full steem ahead. :)
VanO



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Rod (NH)

08-17-2005 10:51:23




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 Re: Paint question. in reply to VanO, 08-16-2005 19:15:00  
Hi Van,

Yes, you've asked too much :o). One could write a book trying to fully answer your question - and it would still be just another opinion. There are different options in materials, equipment, effort and cost. You will have to evaluate just how good a result you want to achieve and how much effort and money you want to spend to get it. Unfortunately, a "good job that will last" is very subjective - it depends on who's saying it. Rust pits are a real bear to deal with if your goal is to achieve an automotive quality finish. You can see how I dealt with some pitting on a tractor fender here. Personally, I would not go to that trouble on an implement such as a plow. My approach (and the result) would not be the same. Others will do it differently, but here's how I'd do a plow if it were mine (I should do my plows too but it's such a low priority, it likely will never get done):

1. Forget about pits altogether - save that effort for main tractor sheet metal as CNKS indicates..
2. Wire brush loose rust off.
3. Treat rust areas with a rust treatment similar to "Extend" by Loctite/Permatex.
4. Epoxy primer.
5. Acrylic urethane topcoat.

If I didn't already have the safety equipment to spray acrylic urethane, I'd use an acrylic enamel w/o hardener or even a tractor dealer paint, by brush if necessary. Of course this approach will not result in a show finish but that would not be my intent in the first place. My advice is not to try and turn a plow into a Mercedes - you are likely to become frustrated and disappointed if you do. However, if you want to spend many, many hours on an implement to achieve diminishing returns but get bragging rights, well, the sky's the limit. As Tim says, fixing pits takes lots and lots of sanding, probably by hand on parts such as you are talking about.

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CNKS

08-17-2005 09:16:33




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 Re: Paint question. in reply to VanO, 08-16-2005 19:15:00  
Tim is correct. However it sort of depends on what you want to do. I usually think of pits on sheet metal, which you don't have. On your cast or forged pieces you probably don't need the absolutely glossy finish as you would on sheet metal. On the severely pitted areas, you can fill with bondo if you wish, you just have to decide whether the improvement in looks is worth the effort. You usually don't need surfacer on an implement. Use epoxy primer and topcoat with acrylic enamel or acrylic urethane. If you use hardener, you need a supplied air system, not worth it for one implement, so unhardened acrylic enamel is probably your best bet. On the red parts, you can use Case-IH 2150, which will likely give good results, it is probably not the correct shade of red, but may be close enough. PPG 70019 is closer to the correct red -- it has to be mixed. For the correct blue read the post about "blue lacquer" below.

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Tim...Ok

08-17-2005 07:03:16




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 Re: Paint question. in reply to VanO, 08-16-2005 19:15:00  
If the pits aren"t too deep,you could probably fill them with a few coats of a surfacer,lots of sanding though.. or a spreadable filler,again lots of sanding.. if the stuff is going be stored outsde,stay away from the cheap farm store paints,they fade badly.. a good urethane will last a long time in the elements..

Tim



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